I can tell you that Columbus will not move Jiricek unless Draisatl, McDavid or Bouchard are involved. Oilers don't have the pieces required otherwise so likely no chance of a trade being made.

As an Oilers fan, this is accurate. Jiricek has a higher ceiling than Bouchard. I wouldn't move Drai or McDavid for him tho.

As a Blue Jackets fan, only a guaranteed re-signed McDavid or Draisaitl would be even remotely interesting. And the Oilers rightfully will not do that. It's a no-go.

Did not at all see that in him so apologies if my valuation is off, however I don't know if I'd say he has a higher ceiling than Bouchard.

That said, how far off am I here?

Extremely. They would need an equivalent high end piece plus a bit more coming back. Jiricek is the only player in their organization that has the potential of top pair RHD. They won't move him unless it is absolutely necessary and the return would have to be high end pieces going back. Your trade has a bunch of mid to lower end pieces in it, nothing if interest to Columbus. They have a bunch of mid pieces in their organization right now.

Jiricek for a soon to be waiver’s pickup, a former 7th rounder, a late 1st and 2nd? I don’t think so

I'm seeing a lot of disinterest in this post so I guess my values off, I really didn't see much more than a maybe top pair dman/likely top-4 dmen in him but I guess I'll need to watch a little bit more.
Meant no disrespect with the offer.

All good. It's not even a matter of value but of team needs as well. Columbus needs him alot more than they need that package

Is Jiricek really that much better than Broberg? Here are their 20-year-old stats in the AHL

Broberg: 31, 4-19-23 +14
Jiricek: 25, 7-10-17 -16

As a fan of neither team I find that assessment absurd! Bouchard is killing it at almost a PPG on a good contract he has to be higher value than Jiricek right now, maybe not in the future but right now it’s got to be true

I'd say he is just as watching his games vs Broberg's, however that may just be my preference in style of play and opinion on translation into the NHL.
The main difference to me is their physicality and vision, which to me makes Jiricek worth more.

Now factor in upside of the player and age vs potential. Point totals are close to each other but value is Not close.

Edmonton literally doesn't have what it would take lol.

They're too good for their picks to be of much value, their prospects aren't all that good, and any meaningful player is somebody they're going to want to keep.

Just wanted to chime in and say if Jiricek's ceiling is current Bouchard, we'd be very happy as fans. He's a little more defensive minded in his game, but if he turns into a Norris contender (and projections say he could), Columbus is set. He's the only one in the system like that, so that's why we're just better off keeping him. Thanks for being respectful in the comments, too, usually Jiricek proposals turn into a "he's not worth that" shouting match

You're comparing Broberg's d+3 season to Jiricek's d+2 season.

I'm comparing 20 year old seasons. They're only 2 years apart. Jiricek was among the oldest players in his draft and Broberg among the youngest in his.

He's better offensively, but defensively he's a work in progress. Broberg was a much better 2-way player at the same age, in the same league.

Broberg isn't physical at all though, which at a certain point he needs to figure that out.
He doesn't defend well enough with his stick/skating right now to get away with almost no physical presence.

Jiricek over commits defensively, somewhat like Nurse when he was younger, gets almost too puck focused at times and makes mistakes because of it.
But he is very very good at reading the play and also wins a lot of net front/corner battles due to his size.

I personally would take Jiricek's defensive style over Brobergs because he will likely mature and stop over committing, however idk if Broberg is gunna learn to be physical/"mean" (I hope he does).
Again though it's a personal preference, some people would prefer Brobergs style of defending.

I think this is proof that you don't watch him much. His gap control is quite good, he has an active stick defensively and is actually credited with more hits/60 than Jiricek over the past 2 seasons in the NHL.

In any case, the proof is in the pudding: the Oilers have an advantage in things like shots, scoring chances and high danger corsi with Broberg on the ice as compared with the Blue Jackets with Jiricek.

I think Jiricek has a higher ceiling too, but I'm not convinced it's significant enough to trade Broberg with a bunch of extra pieces today as Broberg appears to be the better 2-way player. And the Oilers already have Bouchard to run the offensive side.

Cool beans. Doesn't change that that's not how players are compared. Jiricek is in d+2 so the comparable season for Broberg is his last season in Sweden.

I think comparing same-age seasons is more appropriate, personally. You can compare a 19 year old with a 20 year old if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Sad that you have to try to make it personal when I'm just trying to educate you on how players are compared by seasons since their draft instead of by age.

LOL. You need to know that you aren't the authority on this.

On the subject of Blue Jackets players dk325 arguably has more authority than you.

I know I'm not. I'm just sharing with you how every credible analytics group compares young players. The way you want to compare them you're giving Broberg 5 more months of maturity, plus an extra pro season since being drafted. The way intelligent people do it would be giving Jiricek 7 months more maturity and zero extra pro seasons since being drafted. One way is simply better than the other.