Big Offseason Shake Up

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Created by: GMDannyB

Team: 2024-25 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 6, 2024

Published: Apr. 6, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Is it realistic? No. Would it be awesome? Yes. Has Danny B shown he can make crazy moves to make the team better now and in the future? See Drysdale, Walker, Fedotov. For all the Sens fans that will inevitably say it’s not enough for them, good luck getting a team to pay more than 4 1sts and 3 2nds worth of equivalents, it won’t happen and is probably too much frankly lol. To Anaheim fans, it’s probably not enough for Zegras but his value is so hard to gauge depending on if he wants out or not. To the Ersson haters, the team ran him out of gas blame Hart, Petersen, and Sandstrom for forcing Ersson to play way too much for months. He will be a starting goalie in the league or at minimum a very good 1A/1B so if ur ready to write him off get lost.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Brink, Bobby		2	$1,500,000
Zamula, Yegor		2	$1,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Fedotov, Ivan		2	$2,000,000
Martinook, Jordan		2	$1,900,000

Trades

PHI

OTT

Bonk, Oliver
Brink, Bobby
Frost, Morgan
2024 1st round pick (FLA)
2024 1st round pick (PHI)
2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
2025 2nd round pick (ANA)

PHI

Anywhere, doesn’t need to be AZ. He’s cooked and cannot play just get him off the team.

ARI

Atkinson, Cam
2025 3rd round pick (PHI)
2026 3rd round pick (PHI)

PHI

Zegras, Trevor

ANA

Farabee, Joel
2025 1st round pick (PHI)
2025 2nd round pick (PHI)
2026 2nd round pick (PHI)

Buyouts

Anthony Deangelo: $1,666,667
Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Kevin Hayes: $3,571,428 (50%)

Buried

Ryan Johansen: $2,850,000 ($4,000,000)
Cal Petersen: $3,850,000 ($5,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$87,700,000	$87,915,475	$245,000	$80,000	-$215,475

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 4	Zegras, Trevor $5,750,000$5,750,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Tippett, Owen $6,200,000$6,200,000 RW, LW UFA - 8	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000$7,750,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Foerster, Tyson $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 1
Martinook, Jordan $1,900,000$1,900,000 LW, RW UFA	Poehling, Ryan $1,900,000$1,900,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Barkey, Denver $913,333$913,333 ($80,000$80K) C RFA - 3
Cates, Noah $2,625,000$2,625,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Hathaway, Garnet $2,375,000$2,375,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 7	Ersson, Samuel $1,450,000$1,450,000 G RFA - 2
York, Cam $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD/RD RFA - 1	Drysdale, Jamie $2,300,000$2,300,000 RD RFA - 2	Fedotov, Ivan $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 2
Seeler, Nick $2,700,000$2,700,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 4	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000$5,100,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2		Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 3
Zamula, Yegor $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD/RD RFA

Apr. 6 at 11:59 p.m.

GiggywithGibby

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There's been zero reporting on any side that he wants out, and we'd want a RW back the other way.

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Apr. 7 at 12:01 a.m.

Cub19

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That's an over payment on the sens deal.

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Apr. 7 at 12:01 a.m.

GMDannyB

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

There's been zero reporting on any side that he wants out, and we'd want a RW back the other way.

Farabee has played both in the past and while there’s been no concrete reports about it there’s been loads of speculation and the issues with contracts definitely heightens that. Flyers reports have said that they checked in on Zegras so it’s not out of left field to think something could happen.

Apr. 7 at 12:02 a.m.

GMDannyB

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Quoting: Cub19

That's an over payment on the sens deal.

Probably yeah but I mean how else do you get a superstar like Brady without overpaying and u also get a player that would probably look way better on defense in Torts’ system without giving up TK.

Apr. 7 at 12:10 a.m.

OldNYIfan

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Replace Farabee with Tyson Foerster and we Anaheim guys would have a hard time justifying rejection of that offer. Of course, we're convinced that Z isn't on the market at all.

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Apr. 7 at 12:13 a.m.

Cub19

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Quoting: GMDannyB

Probably yeah but I mean how else do you get a superstar like Brady without overpaying and u also get a player that would probably look way better on defense in Torts’ system without giving up TK.

Frost and brink are the future.

I'd put zamula and bonk plus those 4 picks instead.

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Apr. 7 at 12:15 a.m.

GMDannyB

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Replace Farabee with Tyson Foerster and we Anaheim guys would have a hard time justifying rejection of that offer. Of course, we're convinced that Z isn't on the market at all.

I don’t see them moving Foerster I mean he is neck and neck with Bedard for top of the rookie goal scorers. He’s not getting moved he’s basically the only future top 6 young player they have. Frankly replacing Foerster with Farabee to that trade, given Zegras’ injuries and lack of defense, makes that way too much.

Apr. 7 at 12:18 a.m.

GiggywithGibby

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Quoting: GMDannyB

1: Speculation from outsiders. If he didn't want to be here that much, he wouldn't have signed a multi year deal, he would have forced his way out. Staying somewhere you don't want for three years is a hell of a long time in reality.

2: a natural right winger, one of Foerster or Tippet, not a left shot guy who's occasionally played RW, after all, you're acquiring a 1C, it's going to cost premium assets.

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Apr. 7 at 12:18 a.m.

GMDannyB

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Quoting: Cub19

Frost and brink are the future.

I'd put zamula and bonk plus those 4 picks instead.

Frankly I’m not a fan of Frost. He’s a low-end 2C at best. I like Brink a lot and think he has 2nd line potential, but if ur trading for a superstar then you trade 2nd liners for him all day. Zamula is worth nothing so that’s useless. Tippett and Foerster being on the 2nd line for this team makes Brink expendable if Brady and TK are your top line.

Apr. 7 at 12:19 a.m.

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Quoting: GMDannyB

Bother to watch the player this season before claiming he doesn't play defense.

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Apr. 7 at 12:21 a.m.

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

I’m not trying to be rude but there’s if u want Foerster or Tippett ur probably maybe getting a 2nd on top of that. Zegras has barely played all year because of injuries and is a defensive liability. His value has only gone down the last year or so. I wouldn’t move either of them for Zegras personally and I think it would cost less than what you think to get him but we can agree to disagree.

Apr. 7 at 12:22 a.m.

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Bother to watch the player this season before claiming he doesn't play defense.

I mean it’s a known issue with his game I’m not saying he hasn’t or can’t improve on it. But to act like it isn’t an issue is just wrong. It happens with loads of young talented forwards.

Apr. 7 at 12:44 a.m.

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Quoting: GMDannyB

I mean it’s a known issue with his game I’m not saying he hasn’t or can’t improve on it. But to act like it isn’t an issue is just wrong. It happens with loads of young talented forwards.

It's something he's worked on significantly this season, to the point where it's night and day different from the last two years. No, he's never going to get Selkie votes, but he's at the point where he's no longer an outright liability on defense.

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Apr. 7 at 1:35 a.m.

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Ottawa passes on that.... Ottawa spent a 1st rounder on DeBrincat, and Chychrun... Ottawa obviously isn't looking for futures. Staios has already said Tkachuk won't be going anywhere. To get Brady you'd be having to give up a major piece off your regular roster to even get a convo started.

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Apr. 7 at 3:08 a.m.

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Ottawa says no. I'm sorry but some 3rd liners, a late first and a mid first in a weak class is just not getting it done. Bonk is the only player of value to us in that trade. While Frost is great he'd be behind Pinto and Timmy and I'd still rather have Greig over him. Brink doesn't do anything for us.

Take out Frost + Brink and include Michkov and we'll talk.

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Apr. 7 at 4:06 a.m.

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atkinson w 1 year left is better to buyout then lose picks.

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Apr. 7 at 10:54 a.m.

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Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan

Michkov will be better than every player Ottawa has ever had in their organization so that’s a funny joke. Good one man always funny talking to Ottawa fans. Not even going to comment on the rest of what you said cause it’s just inaccurate lol. Calling a rookie who has done well this year a 3rd liner is hilarious considering it’s his first year in the league. Greig must be a 3rd liner too. Logic!

Apr. 7 at 10:55 a.m.

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Quoting: bwhsocal

atkinson w 1 year left is better to buyout then lose picks.

Probably, just needed his full cap removed in this scenario

Apr. 7 at 10:57 a.m.

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Quoting: Riddick19

Well the only major piece on our roster is TK and he’s kept Brady’s scoring pace so that wouldn’t even make sense to include him and then everyone else is talent wise is probably at Frost’s level and then Brink and Bonk are too solid rated prospects. Quite frankly Matt Tkachuk got less than what I’m offering, Brady isn’t getting more if moved lol.

Apr. 7 at 11:14 a.m.

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Quoting: Cub19

That's an over payment on the sens deal.

There will be better offers than this too when it comes to quality. The main piece has to be a really really good young player or prospect . And the trade would have to be an overpay

Apr. 7 at 11:23 a.m.

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Quoting: csick

There will be better offers than this too when it comes to quality. The main piece has to be a really really good young player or prospect . And the trade would have to be an overpay

Always good to hear your opinion on how no trade is ever good enough for the Sens lol never gets old.

Apr. 7 at 11:40 a.m.

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Quoting: GMDannyB

Always good to hear your opinion on how no trade is ever good enough for the Sens lol never gets old.

I’ve literally stated fair offers from other teams.

Mercer + another piece + 10/11 overall
Jack Quinn + Greenway + 14th overall
Nemec + 2nd round pick
Arizona 5th overall + 2nd round pick + Crouse

Apr. 7 at 11:53 a.m.

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Quoting: csick

I’ve literally stated fair offers from other teams.

Mercer + another piece + 10/11 overall
Jack Quinn + Greenway + 14th overall
Nemec + 2nd round pick
Arizona 5th overall + 2nd round pick + Crouse

Those values are worth more than what I’m giving up? Good to know no matter how many months I take away from this site u will never change lol.

Apr. 7 at 11:54 a.m.

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Quoting: GMDannyB

Those values are worth more than what I’m giving up? Good to know no matter how many months I take away from this site u will never change lol.

It’s not how much value you’re giving up but more so the direction of the Sens if they move Brady. If they move Brady they want youngsters

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Apr. 7 at 6:45 p.m.

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Quoting: GMDannyB

Nothing you offered makes our team better than Brady does, and nothing has the potential to be better than him so it'd be pointless for us to even entertain that. Cutter was your only young player who would've made a trade for Brady realistic for us and Michkov is obviously untouchable so there's no deal to be made for Brady.

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