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Based on the Debrincat deal

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Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 7, 2024
Published: Apr. 7, 2024
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Apr. 7 at 1:08 p.m.
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Value might be there but Habs likely keep 4th-7th ova vs trading it + 2nd + 3rd for Zegras
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Apr. 7 at 1:11 p.m.
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If we're looking to sell, that could get it done. While it makes sense for MTL to acquire Zegras, it doesn't make sense for Anaheim to sell Zegras.
Apr. 7 at 1:14 p.m.
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This comparison doesn't work. Ottawa had to trade DeBrincat and he only wanted to go to Detroit.
Apr. 7 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
If we're looking to sell, that could get it done. While it makes sense for MTL to acquire Zegras, it doesn't make sense for Anaheim to sell Zegras.


Honestly from the outside it definitely looks like they’re trying to build completely around their younger core vs guys from 2019 like Zegras.
Apr. 7 at 1:17 p.m.
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Why do the Habs like TZ so much?
Apr. 7 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
This comparison doesn't work. Ottawa had to trade DeBrincat and he only wanted to go to Detroit.


This is not based on the Detroit trade (they basically got Debrincat for free). This is based on what Chicago got from Ottawa.
Apr. 7 at 1:25 p.m.
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This is fair value IF Trevor Zegras is on the market, which I doubt. If Anaheim would accept pure futures, this should get it done.

Very fair evaluation. Thanks.
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Apr. 7 at 1:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Value might be there but Habs likely keep 4th-7th ova vs trading it + 2nd + 3rd for Zegras


I don’t think they’ll care very much about adding extra picks, though personally I’d only do this if we could use other assets to trade back into top 10-15 to still draft a premium forward.
Apr. 7 at 1:31 p.m.
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I don’t think they’ll care very much about adding extra picks, though personally I’d only do this if we could use other assets to trade back into top 10-15 to still draft a premium forward.


I think Habs management really, really really want Iginla to compete a 2nd line of Roy-Dach -Iginla in 2 years time. Combine that with Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky and that a really strong top 6
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Apr. 7 at 1:41 p.m.
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If it was based on debrincat it would be the wpg pick not the mtl one
Apr. 7 at 1:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
Why do the Habs like TZ so much?


I don't recall ever seeing any indication that Habs management has interest in Zegras, it's mostly a fan thing. Personally, I'm not interested.
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Apr. 7 at 1:44 p.m.
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Basing a trade on the Debrincat deal is pretty dumb considering Debrincat was seemingly only willing to sign in Detroit…

Even more strange when you say you’re basing it on the Debrincat deal but giving up a Top 10 pick. The pick Detroit gave will be mid 20s or later.
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Apr. 7 at 1:48 p.m.
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If it was based on debrincat it would be the wpg pick not the mtl one


Yeah and we very easily wouldn’t even consider
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Apr. 7 at 1:49 p.m.
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Quoting: RazorSeider53
Basing a trade on the Debrincat deal is pretty dumb considering Debrincat was seemingly only willing to sign in Detroit…

Even more strange when you say you’re basing it on the Debrincat deal but giving up a Top 10 pick. The pick Detroit gave will be mid 20s or later.


Lol this has nothing to do with the Detroit trade
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Apr. 7 at 1:50 p.m.
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If it was based on debrincat it would be the wpg pick not the mtl one


No Ottawa gave up #7 overall….
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Apr. 7 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: westcoasthabslifer
Lol this has nothing to do with the Detroit trade


Should maybe specify that considering that was the more recent trade lol.
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Apr. 7 at 1:55 p.m.
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Anaheim should take it
Apr. 7 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: westcoasthabslifer
No Ottawa gave up #7 overall….


Thats not the most recent debrincat trade and realistically hes closer in value to the detroit trade than the ottawa one
Apr. 7 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: westcoasthabslifer
Honestly from the outside it definitely looks like they’re trying to build completely around their younger core vs guys from 2019 like Zegras.


Zegras just turned 23, he IS part of the younger core. We just locked up Terry long term, he's the "old guy" of the core at 26. It makes zero sense to reset the clock on Zegras from our side.

23 or under list
Zegras 23
McTavish 21
Carlson 19
Mintyukov 20
Zellweger 20
LaCombe 23
Gauthier 20
Dostal 23

And this is to say nothing of the 24-26 year olds that are on the roster too
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Apr. 7 at 2:16 p.m.
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Thats not the most recent debrincat trade and realistically hes closer in value to the detroit trade than the ottawa one


No, he's not, the reason Ottawa got shafted on value was that he had a 9 million dollar QO, refused to sign with Ottawa for term, and gave a VERY short list he would sign longer than his QO, Otyawas hands were tied, and they got a significantly depressed return. Those factors aren't in play with Zegras.
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Apr. 7 at 2:37 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 7 at 2:47 p.m.
Ducks fan response...

Four 1st Rd picks required or no trade.

On a serious take.

Trade comparable I would say is Fiala.

He was a young star player on a bridge deal with RFA ending. Just like Zegras.

He was traded for a 1st Rd pick and a top prospect Dman, Faber. Who has turned into a legit top 4 RHD in the NHL.

So Mailloux and a 1st Rd pick.
Apr. 7 at 2:51 p.m.
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I don't recall ever seeing any indication that Habs management has interest in Zegras, it's mostly a fan thing. Personally, I'm not interested.


Fan rumor based on Zegras was childhood friends or team mate with a current Hab player isn't ?
Apr. 7 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Ducks fan response...

Four 1st Rd picks required or no trade.

On a serious take.

Trade comparable I would say is Fiala.

He was a young star player on a bridge deal with RFA ending. Just like Zegras.

He was traded for a 1st Rd pick and a top prospect Dman, Faber. Who has turned into a legit top 4 RHD in the NHL.

So Mailloux and a 1st Rd pick.


And again, missing context of the Fiala trade, which is that Minnesota couldnt afford to keep him, so they traded him for the best they could get, this is not a situation that is applicable to Anaheim or Zegras.

Secondly, none of us are asking for four firsts, we have been rejecting every proposal from HABS fans that have four firsts, because we don't want a grab bag of middle of the lineup assets, we already have those, IF we were to trade Zegras, it would be a long the lines of the Gauthier-Drysdale and Mittlestadt-Byram deals, a blue chip asset as the base of the deal, which would be Reinbacher, or MTLs 1st this year.
Apr. 7 at 3:02 p.m.
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And again, missing context of the Fiala trade, which is that Minnesota couldnt afford to keep him, so they traded him for the best they could get, this is not a situation that is applicable to Anaheim or Zegras.

Secondly, none of us are asking for four firsts, we have been rejecting every proposal from HABS fans that have four firsts, because we don't want a grab bag of middle of the lineup assets, we already have those, IF we were to trade Zegras, it would be a long the lines of the Gauthier-Drysdale and Mittlestadt-Byram deals, a blue chip asset as the base of the deal, which would be Reinbacher, or MTLs 1st this year.


Then the Ducks keep Zegras until the point his trade value drops and they must take a lower trade value, because NO team is meeting the Duck fans or Verbeek's asking price.

It'll be just like Debrincat trade all over again. Have a high asking price and watch the trade value drop until the team trading him just gives up and takes the lower value than they could have gotten a year earlier.
Apr. 7 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Fan rumor based on Zegras was childhood friends or team mate with a current Hab player isn't ?


vague allusions to his chemistry with Caufield is pretty much the gist of it
 
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