a bunch of crap dont get WSH Batherson, Batherson is untouchable

Respectfully, this isn't crap lmao. It's fine if you don't think this is enough for Batherson, but it would be nice if every once in a while you had something constructive to say.

This isn't enough for Liljegren let alone him and Robertson. Jensen is nothing special. Liljegren is 24 just coming into his own and he's a good player. When Keefe gets fired this off season a better coach will come in and Liljegren will finally shine.

Your IQ is low AF.... unprotected 1st + 2nd + 2 good roster players + 2 B level prospects isnt crap but agian i assume you arent smart so your response makes a ton of sense

lol Oh? a established 2nd pairing D man at 2m x 2 years + 2nd + 3rd isnt enough for a guy that gets moved for a 2nd in the offseason? cool

Roberson = 2nd

for one no chance WSH will trade a unprotected 1st, hell even top team like COL, V egas and FLA protect their firsts. a bottom 6 and a 3rd pairing Dman are not what OTT needs and 2 C not B but C elevel prospect dont get WSH a 60-70 point winger making less than 5M that is 25 YO. NOTHING in this helps OTT and only make s OTT worst next year as they have ZERO top 6 RW other than Bath that is under the age of 36

Batherson isn't worth close to that. Holy hell. You can get a much better player with that package. Batherson is meh, he just happens to light up the Caps for some reason. His analytics are garbage as well. Hard pass.

First of all, Athrin is almost always wrong lol.

Second, this is indeed a pretty good offer, especially because the 2025 1st could very well be top 10.

Why do you guys want him and trade Jensen constantly? Established 2nd pair defenceman? He's a bottom pair defenceman with his best days behind him. No thanks

Jensen plays 20 minutes a game? Hardly feels like 3rd pairing numbers but what do i know. If you don’t want a player in the trade it’s okay to say no but to make dumb claims like he’s a 3rd pairing Dman is crazy. I just see people say him and TVR are bottom pairing people all the time and it drives me crazy.

What would he realistically cost in a trade. I was thinking of him or Ehlers in the offseason.

The problem is we don't want to trade him, in fact we'll need more right wingers because Giroux is getting old.

So you'd likely have to overpay for him.

Makes sense. Sens have any interest in Sonny? Or maybe Ethan Frank?

That is a very good offer for Batherson, but I'm just not sure he gets moved. If Staios wants to do a 2-3 year rebuild/retool though, this would be a very good haul for the Sens

20 minutes a night on a team with a minus 41 goal differential. The capitals don't have good defence. Jensen playing 20 minutes a night is a big reason why they are not good defensively. Liljegren has been moving closer and closer to 20 minutes a night and he actually succeeds. No thanks.

So a guy like Point just suck and is a bottom 6 forward bc his plus minus is bad? Your point is really good lol. If Jensen and TL were on the same team Jensen plays above him 10/10 times. But again you have Leaf logic where you make opinionated statements and take it as facts.

I didn't say plus minus, I said goal differential. Jensen gets scored on a lot. He's best served as a 3rd pair guy and would be on any good team. He's not worth Liljegren. If he's so good, why would you want to replace him with Liljegren?

Milano would only be a throw-in for this kind of trade. Frank is even less than a throw-in, he's an AHLer.

These are the pieces that would pique my interest in a Batherson trade, not all these pieces would be in the trade but I'd want at least a few of these:

Hendrix Lapierre
Ivan Miroshnichenko
Connor McMichael
Vincent Iorio
Andrew Cristall
Trevor van Riemsdyk
Sonny Milano
Charlie Lindgren
Ryan Chesley
2024 1st
2025 1st
2026 1st

More than half the Liljegren to Toronto trades are made by non-caps fans.

90% of fans on this site claiming to be leaf fans are not leaf fans