Plans if Dvorsky is Ready

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Created by: tstrauss16

Team: 2024-25 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2024

Published: Apr. 13, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Offseason Moves - Draft
1st Round: Depending on where we fall. I can see the Blues taking a stab at Adam Jiricek. I think we need to see how the WJC18 plays out in case someone like Henry Mews or Charlie Elick stands out and becomes a top 16 prospect.
- Potential Binnington Trade: Maybe a sleeper trade candidate here, but the Blues could look to move Binnington to a team like New Jersey or Los Angeles. I think we could retain $2M on Binnington and get a rather favorable return after the season Binnington put up. See trade #4 as an example of a trade to New Jersey. If this were to happen, we should draft a defenseman with New Jersey’s pick and draft a forward with our own. We can take a depth RD in the 2nd round like Roberts or Badinka.

Offseason Moves - Trades
- Buchnevich: I think we move Buchnevich to get some future assets. I think Chesley is a great pick up at RD and the Blues get a potential draft pick between ~14-20th overall next season.
- Hayes: Does not need to be to Boston but I think we retain half and look for a late round draft pick coming back.
- Hague: Acquiring Hague would be a solid decision for St. Louis. He’s 25 and fits the target age range for St. Louis. In return, Vegas acquires an offensive minded defenseman that is team controlled and will be fairly cheap and can run a power play.

Offseason Moves - Free Agency
- Alexandrov: Simple extension here. He’s a depth player that can slide into the lineup.
- Perron: Bring back Perron on a one-year deal to have him retire a Blue. He’d be a fantastic leader and role model for Dvorsky during his rookie year.
- Sign a RW: Have a few options of targets here. I think we would target Marchessault, Toffoli, DeBrusk or Sprong here. Ideally, we want to move this player to the 3rd line in 2025-26 when Snuggerud is in the NHL. Time the contract to expire when we anticipate Stenberg making an impact in the NHL (at least 2 years - 1 year in SHL and 1 year in AHL).

Future Outlook
- Blues would sign Snuggerud and Chesley to 3-year entry level deals that expire in the 2027 offseason.
- Next summer, Stenberg signs a 3-year entry level deal and moves to North America to play in the AHL during the 2025-26 season.
- Blues add Chesley and at least 6 first or second round prospects in the next 2 drafts to the pipeline.

Blues Top 5 Prospects (Noted 2024-25 Team)
- 1. RW Jimmy Snuggerud (NCAA - Minnesota)
Projected Arrival: 2025-26
- 2. LD Theo Lindstein (AHL - Springfield)
Projected Arrival: 2026-27
- 3. RW Otto Stenberg (SHL - Frölunda HC)
Projected Arrival: 2026-27
- 4. RD Ryan Chesley (NCAA - Minnesota)
Projected Arrival: 2026-27
- 5. LD Michael Buchinger (AHL - Springfield)
Projected Arrival: 2027-28

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Alexandrov, Nikita		2	$775,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Marchessault, Jonathan	2	$7,750,000
Toffoli, Tyler	3	$5,500,000
DeBrusk, Jake	3	$4,500,000
Sprong, Daniel	3	$4,500,000
Perron, David	1	$4,500,000

Trades

STL

Chesley, Ryan [Reserve List]
2025 1st round pick (WSH)

WSH

Buchnevich, Pavel

STL

2025 6th round pick (BOS)

BOS

Hayes, Kevin ($1,785,714 retained)

Additional Details:

Anywhere for a 6th round pick

STL

Hague, Nicolas

VGK

Perunovich, Scott [RFA Rights]

STL

2024 1st round pick (NJD)

NJD

Binnington, Jordan ($2,000,000 retained)
2024 2nd round pick (TOR)

Retained Salary Transactions

Kevin Hayes: $1,785,714 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$87,675,000	$80,006,530	$0	$1,212,500	$7,668,470

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bolduc, Zachary $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) LW RFA - 2	Thomas, Robert $8,125,000$8,125,000 C, RW UFA - 7	Sprong, Daniel $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, LW UFA
Neighbours, Jake $835,833$835,833 LW, RW RFA - 1	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 4	Kyrou, Jordan $8,125,000$8,125,000 RW UFA - 7
Saad, Brandon $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 2	Dvorsky, Dalibor $950,000$950,000 ($800,000$800K) C RFA - 2	Perron, David $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, LW UFA
Toropchenko, Alexey $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Dean, Zach $852,500$852,500 C RFA - 2	Sundqvist, Oskar $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hague, Nicolas $2,294,150$2,294,150 LD RFA - 1	Parayko, Colton $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 6	Binnington, Jordan $6,000,000$6,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Leddy, Nick $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD NTC UFA - 2	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Hofer, Joel $775,000$775,000 G RFA - 1
Krug, Torey $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Kessel, Matthew $800,000$800,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Tucker, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LD/RD RFA - 1		Marchessault, Jonathan $7,750,000$7,750,000 RW, LW UFA
Alexandrov, Nikita $775,000$775,000 C RFA		Toffoli, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA
Walker, Nathan $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 2		DeBrusk, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, LW UFA

Apr. 13 at 2:47 p.m.

Friendly_Cannon

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I could see a kevin Hayes buyout tbh.

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Apr. 13 at 2:52 p.m.

StDetroitBlueWings

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Quoting: Friendly_Cannon

I could see a kevin Hayes buyout tbh.

Agreed. Saves about a million for the two remaining years then only coats less and 700k for 2 more when cap goes up drastically. Philly takes the hit as well

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Apr. 13 at 3:03 p.m.

tstrauss16

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Quoting: Friendly_Cannon

I could see a kevin Hayes buyout tbh.

Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings

Agreed. Saves about a million for the two remaining years then only coats less and 700k for 2 more when cap goes up drastically. Philly takes the hit as well

I didn’t even think of that. Doesn’t make sense to buy out Krug yet

Apr. 13 at 3:05 p.m.

Beauterham

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I think it's not out of the realm of possibility Dvorsky will make the team (although I'd rather him start the season in Springfield), especially now Snuggerud opted for another year with te Gophers. However, don't expect too much from Dvorsky if he does make i, as It will probably be in a similar role as Thomas played in his first season with limited icetime.

BTW, I'd rather keep Hayes if the return is only going to be a 6th after retaining on him. We're not going to be contenders next season and we need warm bodies anyway.

That Binner trade is brutal for the Blues BTW... After how he played this season Binner at full value is probably already a 1st round pick, not even mentioning us retaining on him. I also don't see why we're adding a 2nd?

@Ryan Chesley: we need a much better prospect if we're getting WSH 1st as a return.

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Apr. 13 at 3:07 p.m.

SJSF

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People keep trying to trade players to Boston and then sign DeBrusk with the money they save in the trade. I have yet to see an instance where Boston would not just re-sign DeBrusk.

Apr. 13 at 3:08 p.m.

tstrauss16

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Quoting: Beauterham

I think it's not out of the realm of possibility Dvorsky will make the team (although I'd rather him start the season in Springfield), especially now Snuggerud opted for another year with te Gophers. However, don't expect too much from Dvorsky if he does make i, as It will probably be in a similar role as Thomas played in his first season with limited icetime.

BTW, I'd rather keep Hayes if the return is only going to be a 6th after retaining on him. We're not going to be contenders next season and we need warm bodies anyway.

That Binner trade is brutal for the Blues BTW... After how he played this season Binner at full value is probably already a 1st round pick, not even mentioning us retaining on him. I also don't see why we're adding a 2nd?

Ryan Chesley: we need a much better prospect if we're getting WSH 1st as a return.

All great points. I think maybe we somehow sneak out of this draft with 3 firsts potentially. Find a suitor for Binnington and Buchnevich. Dvorsky can start in the AHL. The point I’m making is I don’t think we need to sign a 2C for the sake of having Dvorsky fill the role sooner than later.

Apr. 13 at 3:09 p.m.

tstrauss16

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Quoting: SJSF

People keep trying to trade players to Boston and then sign DeBrusk with the money they save in the trade. I have yet to see an instance where Boston would not just re-sign DeBrusk.

Mainly just showing options at RW for the Blues.

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Apr. 13 at 3:31 p.m.

ClockReads2113

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I love Buch but can't see Caps spending that much on a 28yo that can be a UFA next summer. Think they'll spend their assets on 25 and younger guys.

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Apr. 13 at 4:08 p.m.

mokumboi

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I see what you're going for with the Buch trade, but I don't think Washington bothers with him and if they did, I do not like the return.

I also see zero point in splurging on a winger. If we go get a veteran forward, it should be a 2C placeholder so we can move Schenn to the wing and nothing else. And if Binnington and Buch are gone, what is even the point? Those are all win now signings. And most of them are too high a salary anyway.

I also have no clue how you got the idea Hague can run a PP. You must be mixing him up with someone else. Don't really care to hand them Perunovich anyway. Any salary moved out of Vegas should be bargain basement cheap because they are mega-f***ed as things stand.

I do like the idea of Hague, though, and would not be mad at Frenchy coming home to star some emotion in the group when things get hairy or dull edged.

That said,

Apr. 13 at 5:13 p.m.

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tstrauss16

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Quoting: mokumboi

I meant Perunovich can run the PP for Vegas, if that is what you are referring to. I was trying to say that Vegas would be getting an offensive minded defenseman that is cheap and can run a PP unit.

Outside of that, great points. I’m interested to see what we do at the draft. I’m not loving our options at 16

Apr. 13 at 5:41 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Ahh I misread that. I hear ya on picking D at 16, but I do not think we will end up picking at 16.

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Apr. 13 at 6:47 p.m.

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Quoting: mokumboi

Ahh I misread that. I hear ya on picking D at 16, but I do not think we will end up picking at 16.

Where do you think we land? Or are you suggesting we trade up? Which I agree with

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Apr. 13 at 9:48 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Where do you think we land? Or are you suggesting we trade up? Which I agree with

Trade up. Several teams above us are already loaded with young Dmen, and we have some good trade up ammo. The primary goal should be to land Dickinson or Buium or Silayev.

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Apr. 13 at 10:06 p.m.

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tstrauss16

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Quoting: mokumboi

Trade up. Several teams above us are already loaded with young Dmen, and we have some good trade up ammo. The primary goal should be to land Dickinson or Buium or Silayev.

I am huge on Buium. Who do you think our team targets would be? And would we basically trade our second to move up?

Apr. 14 at 12:57 a.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: tstrauss16

I am huge on Buium. Who do you think our team targets would be? And would we basically trade our second to move up?

I'd imagine Dickinson is #1, but also likely the hardest one to trade up for. I'm sure Buium is right up there. Obviously, Silayev is kinda like a lefty Parayko, so he'd be great even if it takes him a couple years to get out of Russia (which it might not considering current events).

Judging from past trade ups, our 2nd can probably squeak us into the top 10. Of course, we also have the NYR 2nd and two 3rds in our pocket, plus all our picks moving forward.

I think there's a solid chance 8-10 could score us Buium. For Dickinson, we probably need at least 6th. Then theres Silayev and even Yakemchuk who could be exceplent snares. I'm not so high on Parekh because he’s fairly awful defensively.

We've been killing drafts recently, so I'm confident we'll end up happy. In fact, our draft crew is probably the part of the organization I have the most confidence in by a good margin.

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Apr. 14 at 9:50 a.m.

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Quoting: mokumboi

I think you are right here. Our scouting and draft crew has been killing it since the Jake Neighbours pick in recent years. I think trading up is the best approach as like you said I’m not high on Parekh or Jiricek from my end. Silayev would be awesome to draft and it seems like he has been falling as of late. I anticipate him to continue to fall since Russia won’t be competing in the WJC in a month.

Apr. 14 at 8:27 p.m.

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Quoting: mokumboi

Quoting: tstrauss16

I would assume that the Blues try to explore many avenues to trade up, but my from my point of view Jiricek feels like a safety net of sorts. I am pretty confident that if no team is willing to do a trade like last year that we will have Jiricek at the very least to pick up with the 16th pick. Despite injuries he still has good 2nd pair potential.

My bigger hope is that we can pick up someone like Alfons Freij in the second round.

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Apr. 14 at 8:42 p.m.

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Quoting: SJSF

People keep trying to trade players to Boston and then sign DeBrusk with the money they save in the trade. I have yet to see an instance where Boston would not just re-sign DeBrusk.

And if DeBrusk was willing to sign that deal it would have been signed already.

Apr. 15 at 4:43 p.m.

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Quoting: BDHockey

Who is Freij? What’s the situation with him?

Apr. 16 at 11:01 a.m.

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Who is Freij? What’s the situation with him?

Average size swedish LD who is a really solid skater and transition guy. I view him as a really good sleeper pick if we can grab him with one of our second rounders. Not unrealistic that he could be top 4 D, but in my eyes he is a high end 3LD

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