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Vegas 20242025 keep Marchessault no major trades

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Team: 2024-25 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 14, 2024
Published: Apr. 14, 2024
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Assuming Vegas doesn't make any major trades and Capfriendly cap space of 87,500,000

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- Sign Marchessault and balance between AAV and term (taking advantage of favourable tax situation in Nevada), throw in a NTC/full NMC to lower AAV and term; if he wants more AAV, trade one of McNabb/Whitecloud for more cap space, and replace with a depth D-man (term, keep to 5 years, maybe max 6).
- Re-sign RFAs Dorofeyev and Korczak (slight raises and bridge deals) for bigger roles with the team full time.
- Have Brisson up with the team and hope he can makes the jump now that he is playing full time.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,000,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,500,000
Trades
1.
VGK
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (NJD)
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Either go for a higher 2nd round pick in 2025, or a 3rd round pick in 2024 (Vegas has no 2024 picks in between 1st and 6th rounds)

New Jersey does have a need for a defenseman (otherwise, doesn't matter where)
NJD
  1. Hague, Nicolas
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Clears cap space, and Hutton/Korczak are replacements for cheaper
2.
VGK
  1. 2025 5th round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Doesn't matter where
BOS
  1. Howden, Brett
Additional Details:
Clears cap space
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,500,000$87,133,334$0$0$366,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA
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$766,667$766,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
UFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
RFA
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Apr. 14 at 4:13 p.m.
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Everyone knows Vegas is mega-screwed. They will not be getting full value for their cap offloads.
Apr. 14 at 4:19 p.m.
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Disagree that NJ needs a defenseman. If they do go for a dman it will mean they're moving on from Siegenthaler, which in turn means they are looking for a legit top pair LD
Apr. 14 at 5:19 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Everyone knows Vegas is mega-screwed. They will not be getting full value for their cap offloads.


Taylor Hall got traded to Chicago for pennies on the dollar. You saw the same with Fleury. To clear the necessary cap space to sign Marchasseault, my guess is you are giving players away.

But these are two names that make sense and I believe you will be able to do it.
Apr. 14 at 5:24 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Disagree that NJ needs a defenseman. If they do go for a dman it will mean they're moving on from Siegenthaler, which in turn means they are looking for a legit top pair LD


Bahl and/or Smith need to be replaced with someone who can fire an accurate breakout pass
Apr. 14 at 5:40 p.m.
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Taylor Hall got traded to Chicago for pennies on the dollar. You saw the same with Fleury. To clear the necessary cap space to sign Marchasseault, my guess is you are giving players away.

But these are two names that make sense and I believe you will be able to do it.


It's not my AGM and I'm not a Vegas fan. I'm talking about real life, and in real life, both of those examples you pointed to were in anywhere near the trouble Vegas is in now. You basically reinforced my point.
Apr. 14 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Bahl and/or Smith need to be replaced with someone who can fire an accurate breakout pass


Getting Hamilton back will be big for that. Smith played so much because of injuries and Lindy.
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Apr. 14 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Getting Hamilton back will be big for that. Smith played so much because of injuries and Lindy.


100%. But ideally I'd want someone on the left side too. a better partner for Marino. Maybe bahl can grow into it, but I would not give him the job outright. At the very least bring in some legit competition. Colin Miller tier+ but on the leftside at the very least
Apr. 14 at 5:44 p.m.
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100%. But ideally I'd want someone on the left side too. a better partner for Marino. Maybe bahl can grow into it, but I would not give him the job outright. At the very least bring in some legit competition. Colin Miller tier+ but on the leftside at the very least


I can deal with not giving it to Bahl outright, but would love a coach to get the Bahl back from end of last year. Need another shutdown guy that can maybe just pass better than he has.
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Apr. 14 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
I can deal with not giving it to Bahl outright, but would love a coach to get the Bahl back from end of last year. Need another shutdown guy that can maybe just pass better than he has.


We still have a year and then RFA control dirt cheap, I'd be happy to keep him as 7D.

My dream remains Marcus Pettersson
Apr. 14 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
It's not my AGM and I'm not a Vegas fan. I'm talking about real life, and in real life, both of those examples you pointed to were in anywhere near the trouble Vegas is in now. You basically reinforced my point.


Yeah. Both teams were in similar, if not worse, shape …. But I was reinforcing your point
Apr. 14 at 6:25 p.m.
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I don't see how Vegas is screwed. There should be no expectation of signing your own UFAs. By this post they have lost Stephenson and Martinez via UFA. IMO no way they pay. 33 year old Marchessault that much for five years. I'd keep Hague and find a 4m winger.
Vegas traded for long term replacements by getting Hanifan to resign and Hertl .
Apr. 14 at 6:32 p.m.
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Yeah. Both teams were in similar, if not worse, shape …. But I was reinforcing your point


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I don't see how Vegas is screwed. There should be no expectation of signing your own UFAs. By this post they have lost Stephenson and Martinez via UFA. IMO no way they pay. 33 year old Marchessault that much for five years. I'd keep Hague and find a 4m winger.
Vegas traded for long term replacements by getting Hanifan to resign and Hertl .


Guys, it's right here on this site. As things stand Vegas will have 2.3M to sign or replace six players, including their leading scorer/Cup hero and their 2C. AND the spotlight has been glaring on their LTIR usage. From what standpoint are they not monumentally screwed for cap next season?

And perhaps I am remembering wrong, but I cannot think of any non-Vegas team that has been in this deep of doodoo. Feel free to refresh my memory, but to be confused about the gaping lack of leverage they'd have in trade talks with everyone or the obvious need to clear a contract or two just to have a full team... I don't know what to do with that.

And yes, Celtic, when you provide examples of teams who had to give away good players for peanut shells, it absolutely reinforces my point. Not sure how one could figure otherwise, thats the exact point I'm making.
Apr. 14 at 8:08 p.m.
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Guys, it's right here on this site. As things stand Vegas will have 2.3M to sign or replace six players, including their leading scorer/Cup hero and their 2C. AND the spotlight has been glaring on their LTIR usage. From what standpoint are they not monumentally screwed for cap next season?

And perhaps I am remembering wrong, but I cannot think of any non-Vegas team that has been in this deep of doodoo. Feel free to refresh my memory, but to be confused about the gaping lack of leverage they'd have in trade talks with everyone or the obvious need to clear a contract or two just to have a full team... I don't know what to do with that.

And yes, Celtic, when you provide examples of teams who had to give away good players for peanut shells, it absolutely reinforces my point. Not sure how one could figure otherwise, thats the exact point I'm making.


I disagree with your math. If Lehner stays on LTIR, Vegas has 7.7m to sign five forwards. They have seven signed NHL Dmen.
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Apr. 14 at 8:20 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
I disagree with your math. If Lehner stays on LTIR, Vegas has 7.7m to sign five forwards. They have seven signed NHL Dmen.


I have no idea what Lehner's status is. Even if he's out again, it only helps so much. Still a huge issue if they intend to contend.
Apr. 14 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
I can deal with not giving it to Bahl outright, but would love a coach to get the Bahl back from end of last year. Need another shutdown guy that can maybe just pass better than he has.


Where did that guy go? Cause I'd keep that guy! This Bahl Blows!
Apr. 14 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
We still have a year and then RFA control dirt cheap, I'd be happy to keep him as 7D.

My dream remains Marcus Pettersson


I am ok with keeping Siegs. I see the reaction to move him (and Marino tbh). This team still needs a topish defender. Is it Skjej? Him and Petterrson with Luke would probably get us where we need. Move/keep as you want, but it cant be what is currently in place because it sucks and saying Luke is fine going fwd is nots and wrong. get a thumper at the tDL to help out
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Apr. 14 at 8:43 p.m.
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I have no idea what Lehner's status is. Even if he's out again, it only helps so much. Still a huge issue if they intend to contend.


If Lehner is guaranteed be out the whole season it helps a whole lot. LIke 5m in cap to spend on other players.
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Apr. 14 at 9:04 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
If Lehner is guaranteed be out the whole season it helps a whole lot. LIke 5m in cap to spend on other players.


Gotta agree with this. Others are overstating how screwed they are. If they try to re-sign any of their (or other) big UFAs before dumping salary, then they are screwed. But until that point, they have 7.7m to sign 5 forwards. If they can move some guys out before the draft, then they will be in decent shape. They still won't get full value for players they trade out, but they are not yet in a position where they need to attach picks to move good players out. We'll see if they get there or not.
Apr. 14 at 10:10 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
If Lehner is guaranteed be out the whole season it helps a whole lot. LIke 5m in cap to spend on other players.


Right, but again, that's still 7M for 7 forwards, and Dorofeyev is getting a raise. It's a problem, and everyone knows it.

Do we have any report on Lehner? Last I heard he was out indefinitely, but that was back near the start of the season.
Apr. 22 at 12:04 a.m.
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Disagree that NJ needs a defenseman. If they do go for a dman it will mean they're moving on from Siegenthaler, which in turn means they are looking for a legit top pair LD


Bahl is a 7th dmen. Hague would be nice. But then again ppl want injury prone samuelsson
Apr. 22 at 4:11 p.m.
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Quoting: TyeZerker
Bahl is a 7th dmen. Hague would be nice. But then again ppl want injury prone samuelsson


Bahl and Hatakka is more than adequate LD depth imo
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Apr. 22 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Bahl and Hatakka is more than adequate LD depth imo


based pretzel
 
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