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Created by: zk97

Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 20, 2024

Published: Apr. 20, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Xhekaj, Arber		3	$1,875,000
Barron, Justin		2	$850,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Carrier, Alexandre		3	$2,900,000

Trades

MTL

TOR

Beck, Owen
Evans, Jake
Harris, Jordan
Heineman, Emil
Savard, David
2024 1st round pick (WPG)
2025 1st round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

I feel like Marner has become underrated these days. He's still a good winger who can put up close to 100 pts over 82 GP, and is probably a top 5 RW in the league. However, I saw a trade that said Laf and K'Andre for Marner and Niemela is a bad trade - I don't get it. So here's my package for the Leafs.
David Savard provides a defensive right shot defenseman that the Leafs need.
Jordan Harris is a young 3rd pair LD who makes more sense as an option on the 3rd pair over Timmins.
Jake Evans is swapped for David Kampf - Kampf is worse than Evans and on a worse deal, so this is net positive value for MTL.
It seems unlikely that the Leafs will be able to keep Max Domi, so they also acquire a young, cost controlled 3/4C who might have 2nd line upside as a Danault-type player.
They also get two first round picks as well as Emil Heineman, who has upside as a middle six F.

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)
Jake Allen: $1,925,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$87,675,000	$81,249,250	$1,022,500	$4,670,000	$6,425,750

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 7	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 6	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 3	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 1
Roy, Joshua $835,000$835,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 1		Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Carrier, Alexandre $2,900,000$2,900,000 RD UFA	Montembeault, Samuel $3,150,000$3,150,000 G UFA - 3
Hutson, Lane $950,000$950,000 ($750,000$750K) LD RFA - 2	Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber $1,875,000$1,875,000 LD/RD RFA	Barron, Justin $850,000$850,000 RD RFA
	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 2

Apr. 20 at 11:02 a.m.

Campabee

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Take Beck out, he is going to be a very important piece in the future

Apr. 20 at 11:03 a.m.

zk97

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Quoting: Campabee

Take Beck out, he is going to be a very important piece in the future

He's gonna be a 3C

Apr. 20 at 11:05 a.m.

Campabee

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Quoting: zk97

He's gonna be a 3C

Even 3C can be important pieces would you rather have Suzuki-Dach-Danault down the middle or Suzuki-Dach-Dvorak?

Apr. 20 at 11:09 a.m.

GiggywithGibby

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If the leafs loose Marner and Kampf, why would they not be able to keep Domi?

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Apr. 20 at 11:17 a.m.

RipNasty

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Obviously this is nothing at all TO would be interested in. Marner instantly becomes the best player in Montreal by a big margin and the leafs get a bunch of depth and 2 1sts. One late 1st and a future one down the road. Absolutely ridiculous

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Apr. 20 at 11:38 a.m.

MitchJr

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Just … propsterous. A negative 10 on the likelihood scale, not to mention Leafs trade a top 20 player to division rival for scraps 🤦🏻

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Apr. 20 at 11:45 a.m.

xxxtentacion69

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why would the leafs trade marner to a division rival for a bunch of depth?

this stuff makes habs fans look bad

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Apr. 20 at 11:47 a.m.

RipNasty

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Quoting: xxxtentacion69

why would the leafs trade marner to a division rival for a bunch of depth?

this stuff makes habs fans look bad

This is actually better than can be expected from them.

Apr. 20 at 11:57 a.m.

JaredOfLondon

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Gonna need another 1st to take that awful savard contract

Apr. 20 at 12:11 p.m.

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MONSTER1974

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The Leafs, should they wish to trade Marner, are going to want some serious pieces coming back their way. Marner is an elite offensive winger. You don’t pick that kind of player up for spare parts/prospects when the team trading said winger is a perennial playoff contender.

A Marner trade is a hockey trade. Think Jones - Johansen when it was done.

Acquiring Marner would involve a player like Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher, Matheson… not draft picks, or prospects, or older veterans.

Apr. 20 at 4:39 p.m.

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Gonna need another 1st to take that awful savard contract

1 year left at $3.5 million for a solid 2nd pairing guy is awful now?

Apr. 20 at 4:48 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

1 year left at $3.5 million for a solid 2nd pairing guy is awful now?

no, but we're talking about savard who isnt solid or a 2nd pairing guy

Apr. 20 at 4:52 p.m.

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

no, but we're talking about savard who isnt solid or a 2nd pairing guy

If Edmundson could get traded for positive value not once, but twice in less than a year, then So could savard. He’s not a cap dump what so ever

Apr. 20 at 4:57 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

If Edmundson could get traded for positive value not once, but twice in less than a year, then So could savard. He’s not a cap dump what so ever

edmundson cost a 3rd and a 5th and came with a sub 900k cap hit, oh and he's actually much better defensivly than Savard. So yeah, Savard would be a cap dump, he's awful.

Apr. 20 at 5:01 p.m.

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

edmundson cost a 3rd and a 5th and came with a sub 900k cap hit, oh and he's actually much better defensivly than Savard. So yeah, Savard would be a cap dump, he's awful.

Well considering he had interest at the deadline would say otherwise I guess

Apr. 20 at 5:05 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

Well considering he had interest at the deadline would say otherwise I guess

amazing how he always has all this interest and yet no one every trades for him. It's almost like he's not actually good and he is paid way too much

Apr. 20 at 5:07 p.m.

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

amazing how he always has all this interest and yet no one every trades for him. It's almost like he's not actually good and he is paid way too much

Huh what? He was traded a couple years ago for a 1st rounder, and Montreal just didn’t want to move him….i don’t know what your yapping about

Apr. 20 at 5:24 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

Huh what? He was traded a couple years ago for a 1st rounder, and Montreal just didn’t want to move him….i don’t know what your yapping about

A couple years ago he was a much better player, he's been Flaming garbage for 2 years now, so he is worth much much less, prices dont remain static.
Convenient that montreal didnt want to move him when no one actually wanted him

Apr. 20 at 5:46 p.m.

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I agree he’s not what he used to be, and he’s 100% not with a 1st now. But he does not have negative value. If you’ve actually been watching Habs hockey you would know that a lot of our young Defensive players have actually been playing good along side Savard, which is why Montreal didn’t want to deal him just yet.

Apr. 20 at 5:52 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

ive watched plenty of habs hockey and he sucks out loud, he is the worst hab defending by a mile and that's saying something. He allows constant shots and chances against and has the turning circle of a drunken tugboat.
if you watched any habs hockey you'd know this

Apr. 20 at 6:06 p.m.

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I watch every game. Doesn’t change the fact that he had literal interest from other teams this past deadline. Reason Habs didn’t move him is because our young defenceman play very well along side him. All because you don’t like him or think he sucks doesn’t change what I’m saying.

He’s not a cap dump

He had interest in other teams

And Habs didn't want to move him because he’s good for the young guys

Look it up those are all just facts. Wether you like it or not

Apr. 20 at 6:11 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

interest means litterally nothing without a price. For all you know that interest could have been "we'll give you a contract that is just as bad for a different type of player" also you legit have no idea if there was actual interest or if montreal manufactured it to get him in the rumours. and clearly you didnt watch him play once

He is a cap dump

no he didnt

the habs want to move him because he sucks and costs too much

Look it up, those are facts, weather you like it or not

Apr. 20 at 6:24 p.m.

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ggha777

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Edited Apr. 20 at 6:30 p.m.

Quoting: JaredOfLondon

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2024/03/canadiens-rumors-montreal-contemplating.html

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/tampa-bay-lightning/latest-news/former-lightning-defenseman-becoming-hot-commodity-on-trade-market

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/32-thoughts-a-note-on-every-team-to-open-trade-deadline-week/?sn-amp

Bro is just speaking yapapanese because he’s a Habs hater

Apr. 20 at 6:31 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

you do realize that GMs say that people have interest in their guys they want to move just to get their names in the rumours every single year right? And that the Habs are notorious for it right?
Of course you arnt. You believe every single rumour that makes you feel better about the habs and their bad players, right?

Apr. 20 at 6:35 p.m.

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Hey man I get what you’re saying. You could be right, but I’m just basing my info off of articles I read. That’s all. I get your mad because your favourite team hasn’t been relevant since 67. But don’t mean you gotta speak none sense. Worry about your team actually doing something in the playoffs for once

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