Ullmark for NJ 1st makes too much sense

Linus Ullmark does not fetch a top 10 pick.

If you're trying to find a comp to the Cory Schneider trade, there is one on bostons roster. It's not ullmark tho

a 20 man roster isn't just not realistic, it's a step or two beyond that. this team isn't cap complaint.

schneider is a bad comp for swayman.

True, I keep forgetting NJ sucked this year lol. In my head it's a 20-25 pick. But it's not like NJ needs young prospects.

Agreed, just for fun.

Cory Schneider= Mid 20s, 2 years term
Swayman= Mid 20s, 2 years rfa control

Schneider over the previous 3 years:
1st in SV%, 1st in GAA, 4th in GSAx
Swayman:
6th in sv%, 6th in GAA, 9th in GSAx

Neither were full time starters playing every 2 days.

The Bruins today are a bad comp for the Canucks from that year.

The Bruins aren’t trading Swayman for a #10 pick.

I can see why the Devils are saying they won’t trade a #10 pick for Ullmark.

I do want to say one thing to Jersey fans … a top 10 pick and the #10 pick are two different things in terms of value. It’s basically the range where you move from great to good prospects in this draft

Go ahead and make it two years if you’d like on Swayman .

6th in GSAx, 3rd in SV% for Swayman compared to Schneider 4th in GSAx and 1st in SV%?

i'm saying it's a bad comp because Swayman>>>>Schneider.

schneider was a clear backup getting the easier matchups. swayman was in a platoon.

Schneider was literally the starter in 2012-13 but okay

Jeremy Swayman playing in 49.4% of team games the last 2 years: flirting
Cory Schneider playing in 48.5% of team games in his last 2 years in Van: harassment

Cap is goi g up next year - $87.7M is my best guess. Don’t like it (as a Leafs fan) but you should have more cap to play with than you show

Swayman .561 GsAx/60 over 81 starts in 2 years
Schneider .397 GSSx/60 over 63 starts in 2 years

Swayman is better

It’s not a particularly strong draft class this year so a top 10 pick for a Vezina winning goalie isn’t a bad price at all. I’d argue Boston should get more but goalies typically don’t get huge hauls

I like Berkly Catton. Watched him twice this year. I don’t think he’s as good as Nate Danielson who went 9th last year. Probably rate him about even with Oliver Moore who went 19, but should have gone 15.

Either way, I would assume Boston would be adding a 2025 first to get someone like him for Ullmark.

This is correct. I think a late round first or an early 2nd rounder + 3rd rounder is probably the appropriate range, given his play of late, the likely demand for G in the offseason, and the lack of quality UFA G this offseason.



Situationally, it doesn't make sense for the Bruins to give up Swayman for a single pick likely near #10. You can argue about fair value and comps until you are blue in the face, you can present all of the numbers, and I won't try to counter them because that stuff doesn't matter. Many of you who follow the NJD-BOS threads already know my song-and-dance routine on this topic, so I'll spare you all this time.

To be fair to the Devils, unless there is an agreement to discuss contracts prior to the trade, they are only getting him for 1 year. I'm not sure any team would give up a top 10 pick for 1 year of any player at any position unless they are going all-in at the TDL (and in that case, they almost never have a top 10 pick anyway).

I can see your point on this, but when Schneider was dealt it was only with 2 years left on his deal and it was a much stronger draft class. I think with the weaker prospects the 1 year less kinda averages it out pretty similar

Sure, that all plays into it too. I'm not going to argue too hard against the Bruins getting a better return since I am a B's fan after all!

that mark had Cory Schneider 2nd in the NHL over that span behind only Henrik

Swayman ranks 3rd, and is 2nd on his own team.

That's like comparing point totals from today to when Jamie Benn won the art ross. Is an 88 point scorer from this year better than Benn was then?

I 100% agree that Swayman shouldn't be moved for 10th overall. I have consistently said I'd add to either 10th overall or Mercer for Swayman. Goalie market has changed. But Schneider was imo better than Swayman is now.

Cory Schneider was literally him.