Sorry, how do the ducks have 20 and 24OA? Gibby and the EDM1st for 10OA sounds good though

The value separation between the EDM and NJD picks is equivalent to 20 OA, per Puckpedia

24th = EDM pick
20th = implied value of Gibson

(maybe with retention)

Ah okay, so basically assumes Gibby is worth a 20OA. Feels a bit much to me unrestrained, but if ANA threw a smidge over $1M retention that feels about right

Thank you! Just basically said the exact same thing replying to Giggy. I think we’d need to retain, but still would have no problem with it. Go try and win a cup while you can Gibby, and help set up ANA with another big time prospect for when they’re actually in a cup window. Win-win from my pov

So idk about this one but most of those draft pick value models are some form of WAR measurment of the average performance of those draft picks over any of the first 5,6, or 7 years of the players career. To accurately value the players going along with the draft picks you'd have to account for years of control remaining and expected performance (wins added most likely) over those years using a similar player aging curve. Markstrom's for example might be (made up numbers ahead) a 12 next year and 6 the following making him worth an 18 in your evaluation instead of whatever you are using currently

How // where do you find that on Puckpedia? I can’t find the values

No thanks.

I think the MN is the safest one for NJD. Only 3 lose spots in the draft. If Gus rebounds from a down year, great. If he doesn't you're not tied to much term/money.

Outside of the very top end goalies are just so fickle year to year.

Buddy, check the main description

It’s not a perfect science, by any means. It’s just another fun way to look at things.

Damn

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Agree on both points. If Devils are looking for bigger middle six winger, there will likely be a similar list available at 13 vs 10.

And goalies are voodoo

Boston isn’t trading Jeremy Swayman for Barkly Catton. Include Ullmark and picks or prospects going back to you.

Thought of that, but hard to make up the math. Say Ullmark is with end-of-round 1st pick (like Kuemper), Boston would have to make up considerable value still…and I don’t think they have a prospect that makes up the difference.

#10 = 34.2

#30 = 11.4
(#16) = 23.5

Maybe Poitras?

My guess is Boston would offer Ullmark and a 2025 first for the 2024 first.

I’m using the best player as the designation of value. Barkly Catton is a likely player. Would he have been a top 10 pick last year? I don’t think so and I love the kid as a player to the point where I’ve gone out of my way to watch him this year in person.

From my perspective, Ullmark is probably the best case of age and performance that Jersey can’t point to for their goaltender options.

I’m expecting if Boston closes out Toronto, Ullmark might play a more prominent role against Florida. He’s been nails against them this year just like Swayman against Toronto.

If the playoffs plays out like I think it could, I could see Boston keeping both goaltenders because it works.

nope markstrom isnt worth a 1st unless he has 50% retain than hes worth the 25 1st but that still a HUGE OVERPAY when a 34 yr goalie that makes the devils have to rush a cup in 2 yrs. the panic is real and cringe. Why would NSH trade saros and risk missing playoff next year? Swayman isnt going anywhere. Ullmark id take but not for this years first. Gust HAHAHHA NOPE, Gibson NOPE. Perry over anyone else? Duhaime? Also whats everyone obsession with stenlund now? Also Lazar 3rd line YIKES. breaking up meier and Nico makes no sense.