They just get worse every day...
The wild wouldn't even give you either Faber or Boldy for Marner let alone BOTH

Are you kidding. That's half the Wild core for your caataways... What a joke!

Holy **** some fans are delusional! That is such a bad trade for the Wild. If Marner gets traded, please reach out for professional help. You aren't getting close to that for a return

This is why everyone hates Toronto fans.

I counter with Zuccarello and Middleton for Nylander and Dewar.

I don't think it's all the fans. There are some bad Wild ones too. I'll be honest, if Toronto wants to mix things up with the core, I'd be fine with trading Rossi, Spurgeon and GusBus. The only return I would like from Toronto is Knies. I'm find with trading Rossi and Gus for Knies and a pick. Maybe we retain on a Marner trade for 1 year so Toronto gets a big piece back. I'm cool with those scenarios. I'm not cool with trading Marner and giving up our core. I'm a fan of the Leafs because there's a lot of similarities between us, but this is a hard no. I think other Leaf fans would agree. I also understand you don't want to move Knies, and thats cool. I just don't think Minnesota will be doing any trades. I also think you have wingers that are more valuable than Knies. Bertuzzi and Domi are 2 big ones. They erased Marchand from that series. Fun to watch

Spurgeon and Hartman for Nylander and Knies even

Imagine thinking you are getting a top pairing dman on a rookie contract and a stud forward locked up long term for a super expensive UFA and a prospect. If the trade were reverse TML fans would be like you are short like 6 1st rd picks.

What's wild is someone thought these were all good enough trades to actually hit submit on all of this garbage

Maybe add in Gaudreau, if we’re feeling generous.

I DON'T WANT KNIES.

More specifically, I don't understand your desire for him.

Were better off just keeping Rossi at that point.

1) Sure, he's bigger. But while similar production wise, he still had lower production rates despite playing with much better players than Rossi has had.

And Rossi has frankly the better hockey IQ that'll take him farther.

2) Knies isn't exactly a more aggressive or more physical player than Rossi either. Despite his size advantage over Rossi. What does it say, when the 5'9" 185 lbs 2nd-line center is more apt and willing to go to the hard areas or score from the crease paint when the 6'3" 216 lbs top-six winger prefers to play from the perimeter?

I just don't see it.

Sure Knies has size. But I prefer Rossi over him 10/10 times.

Knies isn't going to have the offensive upside Rossi does, but I can't see how we wouldn't turn into a 50-55ish point winger, and I strongly disagree about the physical and aggressive aspect. I think he's a much more willing participant than Rossi, and he's definitely much more effective at it.

Is that so?

I don't think that I've seen that from him. Rossi actively forechecks and crashes the net. In spite of his smaller stature and size. From all my viewings of Knies, which isn't extensive, admittedly, he's always been more of a perimeter player. He's strikes me more of a much more offensively talented but still giving off Greenway or Wild Era Coyle has size but doesn't use it vibes. 🤷‍♂️

Wow that Minnesota trade is bad but can we say we’re really shocked? Oh also a no from the Blues

I've watched Knies a ton. He isn't Clutterbuck or Rempe but he plays pretty smart with his size. He isn't pushed around really. I think he hasn't found his game yet. I think of a Tuch type player maybe not the same production. I don't see him as a 1st line winger when he's done developing but I can see him as a great 2nd line winger maybe with Ohgren and Ek. Thats why I'm drawn to his game. Paired with Ek, I think we see him flourish into a consistent 50-55 point guy and is tough to push around in the playoffs. I would be all in on Knies. Rossi and a 2nd and I would probably do that

Then you can drop that 2nd right now.

I'd refuse to move Rossi plus for Knies. Because you seriously can not be telling me that a 2nd line WINGER, a less productive one at that, carries more value than a kid who is a 2nd line CENTER at minimum and who has more offensive upside and ceiling. I don't think it's unreasonable or unrealistic to think Rossi could become a 65-70 point player. Ala Eriksson-Ek.

If Toronto wants Rossi, they can send us Knies PLUS thier 2nd. Otherwise, Guerin should be fired for sending a better prospect and player plus a better draft pick for a LESSER prospect and paying them for the pleasure of it.

That I agree with, I wouldn't add to Rossi to get Knies, it would be straight up or Toronto adding something small.