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would you pay a first for Kuzy

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Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2024
Published: May 14, 2024
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    Would your team (any team) pay a first+ for Kuznetsov? Just curious
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    May 14 at 7:47 p.m.
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    PittsburghModelMyAss
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    you really have to ask..?
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    May 14 at 7:48 p.m.
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    Any GM that gives up a 1st for Kuz should be fired and jailed
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    May 14 at 7:49 p.m.
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    Is water wet?
    No
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    May 14 at 7:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: BigBadBurke
    you really have to ask..?


    Quoting: Rags21
    Any GM that gives up a 1st for Kuz should be fired and jailed


    You'd never guess which Canes fan is telling people he could
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    May 14 at 7:54 p.m.
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    CAR just got him for a 3rd and WAS needed to retain 50% just to get that. Just because he had a handful of good games isn't going to change anything.
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    May 14 at 7:54 p.m.
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    You'd have to hit any GM over the head with a bat a few times to get them to offer a 1st+ for that washed up coke fiend
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    May 14 at 7:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    CAR just got him for a 3rd and WAS needed to retain 50% just to get that. Just because he had a handful of good games isn't going to change anything.


    That's what im trynna say
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    May 14 at 7:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: FlameFlameFruit
    You'd never guess which Canes fan is telling people he could


    I do! I do!
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    May 14 at 8:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ennis
    You'd have to hit any GM over the head with a bat a few times to get them to offer a 1st+ for that washed up coke fiend


    I will say this about Dundon/Waddell though. I'm a guy that believes in 2nd chances and they act that way. I'm hoping it isn't coco Kuzy's 5th or 6th chance, but when a guy like Deangelo who did something awful...ok serve that punishment and yes its a privilege to be an NHLer, BUT can't a guy try to learn and be better too? Can't we give a guy a 2nd chance? Depends on the situation of course.
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    May 14 at 8:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    I will say this about Dundon/Waddell though. I'm a guy that believes in 2nd chances and they act that way. I'm hoping it isn't coco Kuzy's 5th or 6th chance, but when a guy like Deangelo who did something awful...ok serve that punishment and yes its a privilege to be an NHLer, BUT can't a guy try to learn and be better too? Can't we give a guy a 2nd chance? Depends on the situation of course.


    He's got his second chance, which is good for him. He's still washed though. Ain't nobody paying a 1st for him
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    May 14 at 8:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ennis
    He's got his second chance, which is good for him. He's still washed though. Ain't nobody paying a 1st for him


    100% agreed. More of a Dundon/Waddell comment.
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    May 14 at 8:03 p.m.
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    Is this idea or suggestion from the same person who claims to be a former NHL executive lul?

    But in all seriousness no and whichever GM would be stupid enough to do it should be fired.

    He got his second chance and unless Canes ret 50% and ask for less than what they paid and he waives they stuck with him
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    May 14 at 8:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    Is this from the same person who claims to be a former NHL executive lul?

    But in all seriousness no.

    He got his second chance and unless Canes ret 50% and ask for less than what they paid and he waives they stuck with him


    No. The one Canes fan nobody likes.
    May 14 at 8:12 p.m.
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    Nishuskin relapsed yesterday. Enough said.
    May 14 at 8:21 p.m.
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    I wouldn't trade him unless some team absolutely blew us away with an offer... he's been great in what his role is
    May 14 at 8:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I wouldn't trade him unless some team absolutely blew us away with an offer... he's been great in what his role is


    Just gauging what other GM's might or might not do.
    May 14 at 9:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    I wouldn't trade him unless some team absolutely blew us away with an offer... he's been great in what his role is


    He has been pretty bad. He has to be highly sheltered and his controller is disconnected on defense. We should try to move him and try to get an actual center with the money freed up
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    May 14 at 9:36 p.m.
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    Bruh
    May 14 at 10:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: ecupirate07
    He has been pretty bad. He has to be highly sheltered and his controller is disconnected on defense. We should try to move him and try to get an actual center with the money freed up


    getting a real 2C would be huge for Carolina IMO
    May 14 at 11:02 p.m.
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    I think the only possible way Kuzy to return a 1st is if the Canes eat half of his deal, and likely add a 2nd rounder as well. Even then, the acquiring GM should be fired if they do that deal.

    That being said, I don’t think it would be wise to move Kuzy yet. Best case scenario, he fits in even better next year and he is utilized as the Canes own rental. As it stands, his numbers are half as good as what they were in 2017-18, which is certainly a good thing for the Canes, especially if those playoff numbers continue to get better.
    May 16 at 10:27 p.m.
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    you must be snorting the same stuff as Kuzy to even ask this.
    May 16 at 10:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: Letsgosharks
    getting a real 2C would be huge for Carolina IMO


    you mean like Trocheck? Doesn't look like a bad deal at all now...
    May 16 at 10:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: TrippTracy
    you mean like Trocheck? Doesn't look like a bad deal at all now...


    oh god man absolutely brutal, I live in Raleigh this was heartbreaking
     
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