Quoting: Sqm918
Quoting: F50marco
I'm not sure if you did these just for fun but seriously no joke, these are pretty bad trades. (Depending on which side your on of course). Amazing for Pittsburgh, not quite even for the other teams.
Well, I will break them down 1 at a time. The Colorado deal is by no means a deal that Colorado would take. They love MacKinnon and rightfully so. He is a beast, but it's not really an unfair trade. Malkin is a lot better than Duchene and MacKinnon is a lot better than Sprong. The skill level difference is larger between MacKinnon and Sprong that's why I added the 2nd rounder, so it makes it more even. The Devils deal is actually my favorite of all the trades I made. Devils want offense and Pittsburgh wants defense. Perron may help their offense and Clendening is a young guy would could develop into a player great player or a bust. Too early to tell. The Ottawa deal I could understand the dislike. Ottawa wants a veteran to play with Ceci and the other two pieces add depth. The Columbus deal was a long shot, but like I said above, I was just trying to find equal value. I would have made it Prout instead of Savard, but he cap wouldn't work, but the cap wouldn't work with the current deal unless they waited until Savards new contract began next season. All in all, after some thought, I think the Devils deal may be the only deal that may work.
Respectfully disagree on the NJ one big time. I'll explain why on each one though:
Trade 1)
Malkin on paper is the best player in this trade. He still is a beast. Where this trade loses steam is in the long term. Malkin has already started declining. (Not drastically thank god but nonetheless). His health proves to be a problem year after year. He also makes one of the most cap hits in the league. Mackinnon still has 10 years of prime playing time ahead of him. Duchene has been getting a bad rap this year but Colorado would be crazy to under sell on this guy. Whether you believe it or not he's still a #1 centerman. Not of the ilk of a Toews, Kopitar etc but a #1 center regardless. He is also still young. Plenty of time to still get better. Sprong is nice prospect but he was taken late in the second round for a reason. He just isn't as good as Pitt fans want to admit. Not saying he sucks. He is a nice prospect but take the Pitt bias goggles off and you realise he isn't worth as much as you think. The second rounder has little value. What does a late second rounder get you? Sven Baertschi, Chris Stewart? etc (Last years deadline). The real NHL doesn't work the same as EA sports NHL16. There are so many factors that make this trade not as even as you think. Malkin>MacKinnon and Duchene>Sprong + 2nd rounder doesn't make this trade fair. In the logic your using, the difference between Malkin and MacKinnon is made up for the difference between Duchene and Sprong + 2nd rounder. Actually its not. So..... why would Colorado make this trade.
P.s. If we were talking about 08-09 Malkin, thats a whole different story my friend.
Trade 2)
As I've mentioned in other threads, Perron's value has decreased substantially. He isn't worth what you paid for him last year anymore. Tack on the fact that he is a UFA. There is the possibility that he doesn't want to sign with the devils and if he did, the Devils could get him for free in FA anyway. Clendening is nice prospect but he's also 23 yo and hasn't done much yet in the NHL. His value isn't that high either. Now, Adam Larsson is a top pairing defencemen. He's young, big, mobile, signed for cheap, a top 4 draft pick etc etc. Why would NJ want to make this trade?
P.s. Of all your trades this is the most unlikely one. Honestly.
Trade 3)
I still can't believe Pens fans think tacking on a prospect or picks with Scuderi makes it "okay" for him to be traded. Simple solution to clarify. If another team could do this would you do the equivalent of me trading you Scuderi, Plotnikov and Erixon for Ian Cole coming back to me? (Just a hypothetical of course). You'd laugh in my face. Not saying Weircioch is a stud player or anything but yet again I ask, Why would Ottawa make this trade?? They can get Scuderi from you guys for free if they wanted. Am I wrong guys?? Erixon and Plotnikov are ok but aren't anything special. You'd have more chance of making this trade if it were JUST Plotnikov and Erixon for Weircioch. Throwing Scuderi in there does not make Ottawa better, it makes them worse. I ask a second time, why would Ottawa want to make this trade?
Trade 4)
Hornqvist is solid player, Dumoulin is coming along nicely and Cole is nothing more than a 4-6 D man. Savard Is a top pairing defencmen (when I say this I don't mean All star Dman but he is a top pairing defenceman. He can play big minutes). Boone Jenner is the Jackets next captain and is already a very good player and Matt Calvert is a decent 3-4 fourth liner who can play up and down the lineup. The problem with this trade is that both teams want the same thing. Better defencemen. CLB has scoring wingers already. They want NHL ready Dmen. Preferably RH ones. Cole and Dumoulin help a little but they lose Savard in the process. CLB has an abundance of scoring threats already but lacks top end Dmen. Pittsburgh gets the Dman they want but CLB doesn't get something they really want. Overall value wise, its close if both teams where already stacked at each position but thats the problem, they're not. Why does CLB make this trade if it makes them worse at the position they want to get better at??
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