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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.

Thread: Rickard Rakell

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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.

Thread: Rakell is not the option

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan416</b></div><div>Because it’s an over pay. How do the Leafs even protect him next year in the expansion draft. By all accounts the will go 4 skaters 4 Dman. Are you telling me Seattle wouldn’t selects him. That would mean the Leafs would have to pay to keep him protected. MORE Prospects or a pick. A rental is definitely the way to go.</div></div>

The expansion draft is definitely an issue. But that's different from it being an overpay. Compare it to similar trades and it's pretty reasonable value. Biggest question is what would the Leafs have to give up to keep Seattle from picking him.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.

Thread: Rakell to Toronto

I think the Leafs take this, assuming that they can keep Hyman, sign a goalie, protect Rakell from expansion draft, and get under cap. None of which is easy. I'd probably take out Engvall though, Leafs need him for expansion draft. Is Rakell comfortable on the left wing? Top 6 LW is what the Leafs need IMO.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.

Thread: Rakell is not the option

Is Rakell better or worse than Blake Coleman? With retained salary their contracts become nearly identical and Coleman fetched the Devils a 1st and Nolan Foote so I would think a similar trade would be fair, no?

At the very least, I don't think the idea of the Leafs trading for Rakell in a deal involving a 1st round pick warrants posting a new team to make the point that it's a crazy idea lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2021 at 7:51 p.m.

Thread: Leafs and SJ Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Nylander isnt the return we need if Hertl goes. A top 10 pick is</div></div>

Good luck finding a team that's both picking in the top 10 and looking to load up in the short-term. That's more of Sharks/Sens kind of move, so it's probably not happening lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.

Thread: Leafs and SJ Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>B_Leaf</b></div><div>Hertl is the better player. We could possibly re-sign him.</div></div>

Yeah maybe but then at what cost? The Leafs can't make a trade like this without a contract for Hertl in place (which rules out a deal this year), and the only contract Hertl is signing is going to be around market value.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2021 at 5:39 p.m.

Thread: Leafs and SJ Trade

I really like Hertl but as others have mentioned the extra two years on Nylander's contract makes this a hard no. Unfortunately there's not much the Sharks could add that would even it up. I doubt they would be willing to part with this year's 1st round pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2021 at 4:28 p.m.

Thread: how will they do it

I just don't really understand why we would trade prospects for Bertuzzi and then sign him to a market value deal when we just traded a very similar (yet more cost-effective) player in Kapanen for those same prospects.

Also, Brooks isn't an NHL caliber player and Hyman will command closer to $5m per season.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 12, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.

Thread: my deadline

Seems like reasonable value for Pearson. I'd prefer to keep Engvall to expose him in the expansion draft (he meets eligibility requirements) but that can be solved in other ways.

Bigger question though is whether or not Leafs will have accrued cap space at deadline. With all of the LTIR use I don't think they've actually been accruing much. But I guess they could always just bump Vesey to the taxi squad.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 9:45 p.m.

Thread: Palmieri Trade w Expansion Considerations

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MOTDux</b></div><div>Ducks have no need for Kerfoot</div></div>

The Ducks are one of the worst teams in the league. They need everything.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 9:42 p.m.

Thread: Palmieri Trade w Expansion Considerations

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>The leafs are not trading a bunch of good assets for a guy they have no hope of re-signing</div></div>

Hope of re-signing? With what cap space? Anybody they get at the deadline is a one shot deal. The Leafs are only going to have increasing less room to maneuver over the next few years so why not take a shot this year while the North Division is still a thing? Dubas has done a good enough of job re-stocking the prospect pool to use this year's first (high 20s) to take a run.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.

Thread: Palmieri Trade w Expansion Considerations

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Dunno if Ducks need Kerfoot. They have so many centers already (Getzlaf, Henrique, Steel, Backes, Grant, Rowney) and many other youths. I don't think they should move assets for the guy.

Also they'd very much risk losing the guy to Seattle themselves.

That being said, the value absolutely is better for the Ducks.</div></div>

Yeah you could probably argue that the pick should be going the opposite direction, but I figure even if Kerfoot is picked by Seattle, Anaheim is saving it's next best option. If Seattle doesn't take him I think there's value to Anaheim in just having another top 9 forward who can play centre or wing. Who knows if Getzlaf sticks around next season too.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.

Thread: Forsberg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Well, it wouldn't be the WORST trade Forsberg has been involved in...

But if TOR wants Forsberg at 50% retention, it starts with Robertson.</div></div>

Because NSH needs forwards, or you think Robertson is better than Sandin? Opinions seem to be pretty split as to who the better prospect is.

Big question for the Leafs is whether or not they'll be able to re-sign Rielly after next season, and if that means they'll need to replace him internally. If they can't re-sign Rielly it might make more sense to deal Robertson than Sandin, although both make me uncomfortable. But that's probably a given in any reasonable trade for Forsberg.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.

Thread: Trade for Palmieri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Because Toronto would have to fill the exposure requirement rule for the expansion draft (two forwards, one D and one goalie that are both under contract for 2021-22 season and have played 27 games this year or 54 games the past two years combined).

They only have Kerfoot and Engvall to fill that criteria, assuming they'll protect Matthews, Nylander, Marner and Tavares.

They can't include Kerfoot in a deal for a rental.</div></div>

Damn you're right. Unless Adam Brooks finds his way into 26 more games lol. Can't see it happening.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.

Thread: Trade for Palmieri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>I don't think NJD would want Kerfoot anyway, so what would be the best prospect Leafs could offer?

With the tightened schedule...and rolling the top-six 18 minutes a night...that could change</div></div>

Kerfoot would have to be in the deal for cap reasons, unless the Leafs could find somebody else to take him. I would think anybody besides Sandin, Robertson, and Amirov would be available in lieu of the 1st round pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:32 p.m.

Thread: Signing Hyman and Andersen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>99% ceetain they dont want the guy back that literally, abandoned them.

As for linking their line up, i dont understand what you are saying. Kerfoot is a 4th line center on that team</div></div>

Ohhhh, forgot about that lol. Would a new management team still hold a grudge over that? Maybe, but maybe not. Kerfoot is a better winger than centre so you can play him on the wing when Palmieri and Gusev inevitably jump ship. For the short-term the Devils should be looking for any NHL talent they can get while they wait for all of their prospects to develop, no?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.

Thread: Trade for Palmieri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>No real need to worry about Kerfoot's contract.

He's going to Seattle.</div></div>

Good point. But if that's the case, why not package Kerfoot with picks and prospects to upgrade the roster now? Maybe you find a way to trade for a better centre instead of a winger? But it's hard to see a path to making this team better that doesn't involve trading Kerfoot.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.

Thread: Trade for Palmieri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Think you're underrating Hyman. And we haven't really seen if Robertson is ready due to his injury.

Kerfoot's their only semi two way center. Think they should keep him.</div></div>

Hyman is one of the three I consider top 6 wingers (Marner, Nylander, Hyman). The main rationale for trading Kerfoot is to free up space to sign Hyman in the offseason. He would be a huge loss IMO, and they aren't signing him with Kerfoot and his $3.5m on the books.

Kerfoot's defensive abilities are drastically over-rated too. They certainly don't justify his salary. I like Kerfoot just not at that price, and the reality for the Leafs is that price is everything for their bottom 6.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.

Thread: Signing Hyman and Andersen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Devils arent taking Kerfoot</div></div>

You sure about that? https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/new-jersey-devils/line-combinations/

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.

Thread: Signing Hyman and Andersen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habsfan00</b></div><div>seattle?</div></div>

Yeah they could definitely end up taking Dermott but otherwise I'm not too concerned. Won't be too hard to find a replacement for Dermott in free agency.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:12 p.m.

Thread: Trade for Palmieri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>TOR don't really need more wings.</div></div>

LOL they might not need more but they definitely could use better. They only have 3 wingers that have any business in a top 6.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.

Thread: Trade for Palmieri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Palmeiri isn't an upgrade that much at wing. And exchanging Thornton at centre for Kerfoot is a downgrade. So what if Kerfoot is a cap causality, giving away draft picks unnecessarily isn't wise.</div></div>

Palmieri is a clear and significant upgrade by pretty much any measure. Agree that the big question mark is how Thornton (or whoever you want to put there) would manage at 3C, but Kerfoot has been pretty ordinary. It's also hard to imagine a significant move at the deadline that doesn't involve moving Kerfoot to make cap space. Regardless of it's Palmieri as the trade target, the Leafs would be foolish not to make a push at the deadline. The cap crunch is only going to get worse with Hyman, Andersen, and Rielly all coming up for contracts soon, and Tavares isn't getting any younger.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.

Thread: Getting under the cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>etpeck</b></div><div>Canes pass. Necas has Nylander upside, is younger, and much cheaper. Not to mention giving up trochek and bokk</div></div>

The chances Necas reaches Nylander's upside are very, very low. Nylander was a 60 point player at Necas's age.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2020 at 8:07 p.m.

Thread: Getting under the cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Giakki</b></div><div>i know that how them will look but i dont like it at all</div></div>

Love Willy too. Hope they can find another way but at least they fill out their top 9 with good players this way.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.

Thread: Getting under the cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PhillyDip123</b></div><div>Why not move bottom players instead of our third or fourth best?</div></div>

Bottom players are already close to league minimum so trading them doesn't save space after they've been replaced. Could trade Kerfoot and Johnsson instead but the return wouldn't be much, and you still have to find guys that can replace them for cheap.

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