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Birtle34

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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread: Last push before relocation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Simple math on this also, ownership investment from rink/condos/cut from shark club, and whatever else they have downtown, simply doesn’t overly work without the 40 dates a year jets. But let’s say they put the team on the market to be moved, league isn’t going to allow Quebec City period, only option is probably North Toronto new rink, but between Ottawa, and Toronto, that wouldn’t be allowed either. So for the sale route, min price would be a billion, move it to a location with a newish rink, probably another 1/2 billion. 1/2 billion into the club, sitting there with a 2 billion ish investment and what cities evaluation going to ensure at least a 2 plus billion evaluation? Along with the fact that all the other owners much prefer splitting 3/4 of a billion expansion fee over any relocations. Owners better not cry wolf too many times, but this one may work, as long as they make some changes along with the corporate crowd, got to toughen up that ticket, instead of such a soft ticket, never should have killed the secondary market, and some of the other markets that could prop up the demand on tickets when it is lagging. From a die hard jets fan</div></div>

I didn't realize (until looking it up) that True North Square, when completed, will be 1.5 million square feet of office, hotel, residential, retail, food hall, parking and public plaza space in five towers. The office tower would be fine without the Jets, but the others wouldn't fare so well.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGFeb. 4 at 3:00 p.m.
Thread: Would be pretty funny ngl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Would be kind of interesting to note on how long the shelf life of success is on this team, is this the stars of a few years ago that went to the cup final, then tuned out bones and had a step back, or is there some staying power, and be in the conversation for next few seasons for sure. I kind of liked the kid they lost to Minnesota for nothing, possibly a stopgap without having to overterm or overpay a vet. There’s definitely a hole behind this veteran group of dman, hopefully heinola grew and put on some muscle in rehab. What is the price of guentzel? Pure rental all in push year, or happy with a round or two, will be interesting yet. Kind of forced to buy one or the other on Dillon or demelo, I wonder if someone out terms demelo to 4 years, and possibly sticking point with Winnipeg, Dillon is probably a luxury they need to find ability to replace internally or back to waiver wire fun. Damn I hope those kids come quick or helly/scheifele extensions could look a little stale, in a couple seasons. Got to hang that banner asap before the blueline Reno.</div></div>

I think they have staying power for this season but beyond is a big question mark, could easily see them regress to being more mid/wild card/bubble team next season.

Yeah I like Chisholm too, he isn't some huge loss but still seems needless imo, was anyone really gonna claim Toninato? Its still nuts that they lost Kovacevic last season to keep Capobianco who they ended up waiving this season.. 🙄.. Thats some poor asset management and I could see them tossing away a mid to late pick for a depth dman for the playoffs which isn't a big deal BUT is still an asset gone for pretty much nothing though I'm sure the waiver wire king 🤴 will be keeping his eye closely on who gets passed through to see if he can get someone for free!.. 😆

I don't see Guentzel as a need or fit, if they were to pay the price for Guentzel which will be pretty substantial they'd be better off investing those assets into a top 4 dman which is a much bigger need.

I was thinking about the big Russian dman that Vancouver got from Calgary for only a 3rd and 5th and wondered if that wouldn't of been a good pickup for the Jets, try to sign him and let Dillon walk, Zadorov is 29 and plays a similar style as Dillon so sign him till he's 33 or 34 and not be tied to 34+ year old Dillon, would obviously need to be certain Zadorov would sign though but even as a rental he'd of been a decent addition.

I think the Helle and Scheif extensions are already stale, really need to win soon so those don't look so bad. If they win the cup no one will care much about those albatrosses in a few years.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.
Thread: Jets at the Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Those kids prime probably miss the forwards prime, will be interesting to see if they can hit before, scheifele and helly age out. Jets pretty much need everything near perfect to win the last possible game of the year.</div></div>

I think that if the Jets go with cheap youth on the backend and spend up on forwards they could really cheat the system. if they do this next year their combined cap hit on Defence will be like $12m assuming they sign Demelo for the same price he's getting right now. You can then take a bunch of the assets you've accumulated and go out and get a legit difference maker if they spring loose. I think if the oilers keep sucking that Draisaitl will want out, maybe as soon as february.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2023 at 7:42 a.m.
Thread: Jarmo is trying to move a defenceman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>future_gm</b></div><div>Then why did they have Kovacevic on waivers. Lost him.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>They can’t develop outside of first round, outside of Lowry and helly. Give stanley an every chance possible and let kovacevic go be a regular some where else. Kind of the jets main issue, going to get even worse with these two anchor contracts, could be a record dumpster fire in not too distant future.</div></div>

Put another way (sarcastically), Stanley is taller than Kovacevic.

They liked Capobianco (who is in the AHL this year) more because of reasons only known to them.

Edit: They chose a guy who now in the AHL (Capobianco) over Kovacevic to be the 7/8 defenseman last year. The Jets spent several years to develop a NHL defenseman only to give him away.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.
Thread: Didnt see this coming
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Very cautiously optimistic, i question if they are going to actually need the extra 5.0 million spent to extend them, not to brag about over paying or over terming, or claiming it’s a good business practice. But other than extensions and raises possibly to Connor, ehlers, possibly vilardi, whose requiring big bucks, if cap goes up 5 million in 3 years, the extensions really null and void on salary cap other than if they turn rather unmovable. Only mid to bargain ufas are coming 4/5 million or less, so not really a factor there, moose can’t seem to add a top 6 or 4 player to save there lives so not really a factor there either. So perfetti if he proves to be able to stay healthy and performs up to hype gets Schmidt’s money and Dillon money spread to a few other guys and away we go, stay mid to bubble, so not drafting in top 5 to add enough talent to mess with our cap, wouldn’t want to gamble a bunch of money on that sort of talent. Officially the Minnesota wild of old, and prepare to bubble for a good while. How’s that for a rant to start the season lol</div></div>

The 37 &amp; 55 contracts are the Jets versions of the Parise and Suter deals, how did those work out... 🤔... 🤣

Honestly these suck, Chipman is ruining this team.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 27, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.
Thread: Next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Jets kind of In a interesting place, if they trade or let scheifele/helly walk or some combination, nobody coming to replace the 6 plus million dollar contracts and the term and money of what helly/wheeler/scheifele have been paid or earmarked for. Kids aren’t ready for that term or money either, so kind of a rather interesting hole in the roster. So A. They overpay and overterm, helly/scheifele or 1 or the other, b. They sell and return cap and term back along with the picks and or kids, c. They tear it right down with cap dumps galore. All theory goes out the window with players asking out of town, but just kind of a interesting position, that not many teams have a similar experience.</div></div>

Awful Hellebuyck extension coming by Halloween, I'm calling it now... 🤮
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 27, 2023 at 8:38 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 26, 2023 at 11:31 p.m.
Thread: What lines look like they will be pp
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Pleasantly surprised with Namestnikov between niedreiter and ehlers last year, I’m getting excited about vilardi and scheifele and Connor, but probably way too early for that lol. Still wondering if there is matching 5x8 contracts sitting in a desk for scheifele and helly. Tune has changed a bit, without a major cap increase will be interesting to see what the interest is next summer if they get the to test free agency.</div></div>

Scheifele signed his long term deal when teams were still giving out the big money based on past performance. Now that Scheifele is older and has performed well, teams are now giving the big contracts based more on future projection. Ideally teams would only want to do 4yrs for both 31-year old Hellebuyck and Scheifele, but I agree that the Jets would give extra term to keep them.