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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 4, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
Thread: 3-WAY
Really?
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 4, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
Thread: The only nylander trade Id do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Yeah getting a 40 goal scorer and point per game player would totally suck how could I forget</div></div>

When we’re giving up a player who is a better goal scorer than Nylander was at the same age and is cost controlled? Who plays exactly the style we need in our lineup? And we’re also giving up multiple picks? And when we can’t even be sure we’ll be able to re-sign Nylander and even if we do the probability is we’ll completely blow up our cap structure and make it next to impossible to sign Hughes and Nemec to their impending extensions?

No matter how good you think the value is here, it makes absolutely no sense for New Jersey to do this. We’re better off actually using our picks to try to fill other roster weaknesses (like goalie) rather than increasing what is already a position of strength for us (winger), and sticking with Mercer.

I don’t actually think there’s any universe in which it makes sense for New Jersey to trade for Nylander, unless we’re first trading Bratt or Meier. And that isn’t going to happen.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 13, 2023 at 4:31 p.m.
Thread: Then this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Then the gm is dumb and should be fired</div></div>

We don't have the cap room for Nylander long term. I don't care what you can do to squeeze him into a 20-man roster, we do not have the space for him, Bratt, and Meier. We just don't. It would mean being unable to pay <em>anyone</em> even the bare minimum, and it would also mean needing to sell off even <em>more</em> assets to make cap space. The improvement from Mercer to Nylander -- if there even <em>is</em> one, given Mercer's rate of development, age, and positional flexibility -- is just not worth the short term benefits of having Nylander in the lineup. We can't do it, no matter what fantastical nonsense you want to believe. Even if you're sending us the 1st round pick that we could then use to pawn Palat off on someone it still doesn't make sense for our long-term cap structure. No GM is going to take the next five years of NJ's future and cripple it by selling off valuable assets (and we do not have as many of those as we used to, certainly not to spare) and pushing us into utter cap hell. Any GM who did should <em>absolutely</em> be fired.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 12, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 2:00 a.m.
Thread: Where do they go now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>If you're good with numbers you'll see that a 2.3 M$ retention is here making him a 2.38M$ player, good job on reading! Also he's far better than both Smith and Miller while, for the best of the player, Nemec would be much better playing as a number 1 in the AHL all year than a third pairing role in the NHL.</div></div>

I didn’t realize that Pittsburgh had already retained on Petry’s salary. It also doesn’t matter.

If it were just one year maybe you’d be right. But we’d be stuck with him for <em>two</em> years. We just traded for Miller to fill this role (Smith is irrelevant, he’s a 7th defenseman with or without Petry in the lineup), and you think it would be a good idea to trade valuable assets for a player who, in a best case scenario, would eat up $2M in cap space for two years and block our best prospect from an every day roster spot?
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
Thread: One Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>1- Being able to do stuff in NCAA hockey and being able to do that same stuff in the NHL are two vastly different things, man. Being great in college and being a great prospect are also not necessarily the same thing. I really don't think some folks are comprehending what would be asked of a 160 lb Dman, which right now is what he is. He's super small, guys. Do you really think he has some glorious top 4 future ahead? I mean, I suppose it's possible, but let's be realistic here. We'd be here into next week if we started listing all the great college players who were either too small or too slow to translate their skills to the top level. And then on top of that, there's all the guys who made the NHL, but were never much more than honest effort journeymen. If you think he's an A prospect, cool. I won't argue with you. I think it's very clear that he is not, and I have not seen any prospect pundit rating him as an A. I'm not saying he's bad or even that he cannot play in the NHL or that he'll be a big bust or anything like that. I'm saying you might need to temper these expectations a little. Or you can dunk on me by listing all those 5-9 160 pound top 3 NHL Dmen I'm forgetting about.
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I think you're looking at old numbers on his size, from his draft year. On his current team site with Michigan he's ranked 5'10", 178 lbs. That's also what Team USA has him at. He's just not <em>that</em> small. He's the size of Torey Krug or Jared Spurgeon. If he can continue to put on muscle without neutering his speed, he'll end up Brian Rafalski-sized. He also could easily end up playing forward instead of defense in the NHL, where his comparatively small stature is even less problematic.