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Created by: Joblow

Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 16, 2023

Published: Aug. 16, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I know this is not a popular one but New jersey have express themselves to get bigger up front. They have there offensive force but they are a small group. Adding Meier have definitely help but adding bigger body is key for Stanley cup run. Anderson is under a lot of heat here but he remains a rarity and also a good players. 32 team would like to have a Anderson. Contract is a problem but with the cap that might raise significantly, he will become more affordable. He also fit with New Jersey timeline.
Cap doesn’t work for now but by the deadline New jersey will have the required cap space. Since the cap will ride to 87-88 millions no notable rfa to sign they are just fine by 2024-25

Trades

NJD

Anderson, Josh ($1,500,000 retained)

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Anderson can score goal and he also terrorized defense. Ask Dahlin about it!

MTL

Haula, Erik
Holtz, Alexander
2025 3rd round pick (NJD)

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Hauls is a cap casualties.

NJD

Crouse, Lawson

ARI

Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
Foote, Nolan
2024 1st round pick (NJD)

Buyouts

Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
Janne Kuokkanen: $325,000

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

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LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$82,967,500	$422,500	$1,382,500	$532,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Meier, Timo $8,800,000$8,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Hughes, Jack $8,000,000$8,000,000 C UFA - 7	Bratt, Jesper $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW UFA - 8
Palat, Ondrej $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Hischier, Nico $7,250,000$7,250,000 C UFA - 4	Anderson, Josh $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Crouse, Lawson $4,300,000$4,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Mercer, Dawson $894,167$894,167 ($400,000$400K) RW, C RFA - 1	Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Nosek, Tomas $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	McLeod, Michael $1,400,000$1,400,000 C RFA - 1	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Siegenthaler, Jonas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD UFA - 5	Hamilton, Dougie $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Vanecek, Vitek $3,400,000$3,400,000 G UFA - 2
Hughes, Luke $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Marino, John $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD UFA - 4	Schmid, Akira $850,833$850,833 ($57,500$58K) G RFA - 1
Bahl, Kevin $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD RFA - 2	Smith, Brendan $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD, LW UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Miller, Colin $1,850,000$1,850,000 RD UFA - 1
Bastian, Nathan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 2

Aug. 16, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.

Bobrick

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IF Anderson had one year, maybe two, left I could see Montreal doing this no problem. But four years of retention will need more added to it.

Aug. 16, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.

JackForHart

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??? Why those are both terrible for jersey

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Aug. 16, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.

Joblow

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Quoting: Bobrick

IF Anderson had one year, maybe two, left I could see Montreal doing this no problem. But four years of retention will need more added to it.

Mtl won’t be in cap problem for at least the next 2 season. Contract that Hugues sign formDach and Newhook gave them room. They also have many many players on entry level deal or rfa that won’t cost that much. They can still land a Nylander at 10+ and still have cap space to retain.

Aug. 16, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.

Joblow

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Quoting: JackForHart

??? Why those are both terrible for jersey

Because you are a jersey fan.

Aug. 16, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.

mv21227

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Holtz is far more valuable than Anderson, so why are the Devils adding?

Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.

Classic_Devil

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Quoting: Joblow

Because you are a jersey fan.

Yeah, and as a fellow New Jersey fan I agree these both are absolutely horrid.

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Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.

CBA

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Quoting: mv21227

Holtz is far more valuable than Anderson, so why are the Devils adding?

I get people don’t like Anderson contract but Holtz did ****all at the NHL level while Anderson score goals, skate fast & hits hard. Yeah he is overpaid. Yeah he can’t pass. Yeah Holtz might have a better career than Anderson. But right now, Anderson is more valuable than Holtz. Yes this trade is bad, not structured at all. Just wanted to make something clear on Josh Anderson the player, not the overpaid 2nd/3rd liner making 5.5M

Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:39 p.m.

bwhsocal

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AZ not trading away Crouse (4yrs on good contract) for couple of solid prospects and a late 1st.

Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.

TyeZerker

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Edited Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.

YOu clearly dont know how cap space works. they are -1.5m. PS Haula has a NTC so he blocks this 100%. Anderson a waste of space. Crouse isnt worth the 4.3m Anderson had one good year and fell off stop trying to think he is good cuz he isnt. Move on from this clownery. We still on this bum to NJ. Man ppl are clueless. PS Mcbain is better and cheaper. They wont have move capspace by the TDL hello the cap doesnt go up untill the 24/25 season. PPS Aves werent big upfront and won a cup stop this BS.

Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:41 p.m.

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Joblow

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Quoting: mv21227

Holtz is far more valuable than Anderson, so why are the Devils adding?

Not sure how a players with almost no nhl experience. Who have shown a very little can be more valuable then a NHL players in is prime. Anderson is much more valuable to a team on a third line than Holtz. Holtz can become something or he could be another one of the many players that can’t make the jump. If you look at is draft years, he might very well be one of them since so many players have already established themselves.

Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.

#11

TyeZerker

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Quoting: Joblow

Anderson is a bum. Get over it.

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Aug. 16, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.

#12

mv21227

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Quoting: Joblow

Haula is much more valuable to a team on a third line than Anderson

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Aug. 16, 2023 at 11:47 p.m.

#13

KDev

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I feel like if you really have to go out of your way to hype up a player, you’re probably pretty wrong. The Devils wouldn’t give Holtz up for Timo Meier, what makes you think they’d give him up for ****ing Josh Anderson lol

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Aug. 17, 2023 at 12:16 a.m.

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pretzelcoatl

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The Anderson trade makes the team worse

Trading Casey for Crouse would be a terrible mistake

Aug. 17, 2023 at 7:56 a.m.

#15

YeahDudeitsChris

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If i'm honest, NJ doesn't do that Anderson trade for the just 3rd rounder let alone NJ's top forward prospect

Aug. 17, 2023 at 8:01 a.m.

#16

YeahDudeitsChris

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Quoting: Joblow

Because Value isn't based on the value of a player in just 1 season, its over the course of the years the team controls them and Holtz is supposed to provide far more value in coming seasons than Anderson and Holtz has many more years of team control at a cheaper price than Anderson. If your logic held true, then Anderson would have more value than Bedard because he hasn't played at the NHL level yet but almost any team in the league would dismantle their roster to get Bedard because of the future he is expected to have. Players like Anderson are a dime a dozen and teams aren't going to hand over top prospects or high picks for that

Aug. 17, 2023 at 9:23 a.m.

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FireShero

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Quoting: CBA

Feels to much like Erat for Forsberg. I'm not as a high on Holtz as I used to be but if he turns into a nothing-burger I think the Devils would still take that and the future/ current cap flexibility over Anderson.

I do like Anderson as a player just not at that cap hit/ length.

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Aug. 17, 2023 at 9:31 a.m.

#18

CBA

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Quoting: FireShero

And that's fair
Holtz have more value than Anderson IMO
But saying Holtz is a better player right now than Anderson is flat out wrong

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Dec. 3, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: CBA

And that's fair
Holtz have more value than Anderson IMO
But saying Holtz is a better player right now than Anderson is flat out wrong

Holtz is a better player right now

Dec. 3, 2023 at 12:46 p.m.

#20

Joblow

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Quoting: YeahDudeitsChris

Talking about logic when you take a shot at comparing Bedard to Holtz is pretty sarcastic. Each year contending team sacrifice high valued prospect to address needs to make them contenders. New Jersey is a soft team, everyone know it around the league. Tampa had the same issue back then. Colorado had targeted Manson and Lehkonen for a specific reason. Holtz doesn’t have any value if New Jersey doesn’t reach the Stanley cup. They already have plenty of scoring power but don’t have any grit.

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