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Forum: NHLAug. 1, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.

Thread: 2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #10 - Kadri oh Kadri, wherefore art thou Kadri?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188</b></div><div>Well, they just did. (https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2022/08/canada-names-roster-for-the-2022-world-juniors.html)

Goalies:

Brett Brochu (2023 draft)
Sebastian Cossa (DET)
Dylan Garand (NYR)

Defensemen:

Lukas Cormier (VGK)
Daemon Hunt (MIN)
Carson Lambos (MIN)
Ryan O’Rourke (MIN)
Donovan Sebrango (DET)
Ronan Seeley (CAR)
Jack Thompson (TB)
Olen Zellweger (ANA)

Forwards:

Connor Bedard (2023 draft)
Will Cuylle (NYR)
Elliot Desnoyers (PHI)
William Dufour (NYI)
Tyson Foerster (PHI)
Nathan Gaucher (ANA)
Ridly Greig (OTT)
Kent Johnson (CBJ)
Riley Kidney (MTL)
Mason McTavish (ANA)
Zack Ostapchuk (OTT)
Brennan Othmann (NYR)
Joshua Roy (MTL)
Logan Stankoven (DAL)

NOTE: Owen Power, Kaiden Guhle, Cole Perfetti, Jake Neighbours, and Shane Wright (among others) are all not returning.</div></div>
No Guenther, no Sourdif, no Bourgault, no Bourque, on top of Perfetti, Wright, and Neighbours. Forward corps took a massive hit. That's 6 of our top 9 (only Greig, McTavish, and Johnson remain from the top 9 that played Russia). Even Guenther, who played up and down the lineup (and imo deserved to be more up than down) isn't there. Power and Guhle were also arguably two of the top 5 D in the tournament (Power in particular woulda been the favourite to be D of the tournament for obvious reasons). Surprisingly, Canada actually looks very solid in goal for the first time in a while, Garand and Cossa are very good prospects. But only one of them can play at a time. Gonna need a big tourney from Bedard, and probably someone else to step up (wouldn't surprise me if Ostapchuk ended up on the 4th line and chipped in some depth scoring, Greig+Stankoven will have to play big minutes, etc.).

Forum: NHLAug. 1, 2022 at 7:28 p.m.

Thread: 2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #10 - Kadri oh Kadri, wherefore art thou Kadri?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Do you guys know when Team Canada decides their WJC roster?</div></div>

Well, they just did. (https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2022/08/canada-names-roster-for-the-2022-world-juniors.html)

Goalies:

Brett Brochu (2023 draft)
Sebastian Cossa (DET)
Dylan Garand (NYR)

Defensemen:

Lukas Cormier (VGK)
Daemon Hunt (MIN)
Carson Lambos (MIN)
Ryan O’Rourke (MIN)
Donovan Sebrango (DET)
Ronan Seeley (CAR)
Jack Thompson (TB)
Olen Zellweger (ANA)

Forwards:

Connor Bedard (2023 draft)
Will Cuylle (NYR)
Elliot Desnoyers (PHI)
William Dufour (NYI)
Tyson Foerster (PHI)
Nathan Gaucher (ANA)
Ridly Greig (OTT)
Kent Johnson (CBJ)
Riley Kidney (MTL)
Mason McTavish (ANA)
Zack Ostapchuk (OTT)
Brennan Othmann (NYR)
Joshua Roy (MTL)
Logan Stankoven (DAL)

NOTE: Owen Power, Kaiden Guhle, Cole Perfetti, Jake Neighbours, and Shane Wright (among others) are all not returning.

Forum: NHLAug. 1, 2022 at 6:34 p.m.

Thread: 2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #10 - Kadri oh Kadri, wherefore art thou Kadri?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MatthewsFan</b></div><div>Actually just curious, how can you not like Auston Matthews?</div></div>

He comes off as arrogant and showboaty. (And he has a pathetic excuse for a mustache.)

EDIT: I forgot about Nylander, whom I do like. Edited the original list.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 9:06 p.m.

Thread: WJC Canada Lines

I’d put Stankoven over Dufour.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 8:52 p.m.

Thread: WJC Canada Lines

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grapevine</b></div><div>Me too. I really like the kid and think he’s going to be a steal in this draft</div></div>

Kid is so humble and down to earth. Hard not to root for him.

We will see him next WJC

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 8:22 p.m.

Thread: WJC Canada Lines

Bummed Pickering got cut :(

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 7:20 p.m.

Thread: Management Thinks We Can Contend So Go Big

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grapevine</b></div><div>Unfortunately I don’t see a way to get rid of Schmidt or I would gladly have done it and saved Dillon</div></div>

Thank god the Canucks got rid of Schmidt when they did eh? To be fair, it was he who wanted out, but still

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 7:20 p.m.

Thread: Management Thinks We Can Contend So Go Big

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grapevine</b></div><div>I know nothing about instagram but I do know we have a hard time getting guys to extend here or UFAs to sign. It’s why I wish Chevy would have started a rebuild this summer</div></div>

Meier is very much an upscale and flashy kind of guy. He’s always on a yacht or visiting a fancy European city in expensive clothes. He likes luxury and style. I think California suits him well for that. Winnipeg is like the opposite. I just wouldn’t see him signing long term there.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.

Thread: Be the team to overpay Kadri

I’m actually kind of hoping for a toews appearance, maybe stack up 4 centers and see if a one and done sort of squad could entertain. Possibly new stastny with a bigger resume and influence. Cap could be a issue, but possibly a open up a spot for samberg and or heinola. Lots of random stone handed youth to move for toews. Anything but a first would be the negotiations and kids.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.

Thread: Be the team to overpay Kadri

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ihopeigetit</b></div><div>Why does Schmidt make so much money?</div></div>

Vegas thought he was Theodore

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

Thread: Management Thinks We Can Contend So Go Big

That Sharks trade would have to get Grier thinking. It's one helluva package.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 31, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.

Thread: This Trade Could Put NJ Into The Playoffs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Severson is our 1RD, Dougie Hamilton is our 2RD. Marino will get minutes, but but will still be third on that list.

Walsh is a very good prospect and an analytics darling. Was only on the ice for 8 or 9 goals against at even strength last year. He is also more physical than people give him credit for. And has a lot of offensive upside.

Stillman is a mystery box.

The 2023 1st may not be a lottery pick, but the Metro is a stacked division and even a 10-16 pick is very valuable this year as 2023 draft class is expected to be a good one.

The deal, if there is ever one, would be Severson for Miller, with Devils adding a piece. Stillman maybe, probably not Walsh, and definitely not the 1st. NJD is not going to extend Miller, so it makes little sense to pay anything more than that.</div></div>

Stillman has no value to the Canucks, and Walsh is not equivalent in value to a 1st round pick

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 31, 2022 at 4:06 p.m.

Thread: The JT Trade That Helps Both Teams

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>Oh ok, I didn't realize Miller was going to get more than Eichel, Debrincat and Fiala just to name a few younger high profile players that were recently traded in the last year.</div></div>

That return package is nowhere near the value of the Eichel package. Stillman and Walsh are nothing special

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 31, 2022 at 12:37 a.m.

Thread: If we really want to get back into the playoffs

Prefer the complete sell high rebuild, tear it right back to the kids, but this is starting to grow on me a bit. Toews with the right hunger, drive, and health could be a interesting player to bring cup winning pedigree and possibly heal a room. Tatar type offensive veteran for top 9 never hurts, possibly straight grind line and save Appleton to have a role with toews or higher. Such a shrinking window with interesting contract decisions everywhere you turn around, I just wish they decide either way and not try to do both half assed.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 27, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.

Thread: NJ Fans Do You Want To Do A Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Value wise it’s a steal</div></div>

Is it? Looks closer to fair value for me, which isn’t a problem in itself.
But I think given where the Devils are, and the east being stacked this year it’s more sensible to keep the long term assets and hold off on this type of deal for at least one year.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24, 2022 at 12:10 a.m.

Thread: Kadri and Kane Plus Another Pasta Trade Idea

That first line. damn. wow! Not saying that is going to happen but I would pay to watch those 3 play in one line.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 23, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.

Thread: Kadri and Kane Plus Another Pasta Trade Idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Soooo do we have to go over who evander kane is?</div></div>

22 goals in 43 games during the regular season and 10 goals in 10 gp this playoffs does anything else really matter lol

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 23, 2022 at 9:13 a.m.

Thread: Make Him An Offer He Cant Refuse

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>march63y</b></div><div>Hahaha didnt even see it until now. I Dont see why boston would do it. Either WE keep him and go for the cup or he gets traded for prospects and picks.</div></div>

Neither one of us are on the team. There is no we. Its just objectively an awesome deal.
Pastrnak will be due a UFA contract after next season. Hintz just popped 37 goals, and has a year left at half of Pastrnaks price tag, before hitting RFA. He can also play center. Also, pastrnak was just unbelievably bad in the playoffs. Guys been a ghost for the past couple runs at 5 on 5.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8, 2022 at 6:29 p.m.

Thread: Moving The Pasta Man If He Wants Too Much

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Really? Giving up a top six pick and more for one year of Pasta.

By the way Wings and Ducks keep their cap open by not trading for iffy contracts.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HeadHighSauce</b></div><div>I mean this specifically says “if he wants too much” so the assumption is that he extends with NJD

It’s also a 23 first further cementing this happens after July 1</div></div>

Yeah I assumed he came with an extension basing it off the title

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8, 2022 at 6:28 p.m.

Thread: Moving The Pasta Man If He Wants Too Much

I concur with the premise. Not sure this is what i would want for the bruins in return though. I’m starting to think trading him is the right move.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 13, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.

Thread: Scheif Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>njlaforte</b></div><div><img class="for_img" src="https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2022/04/12123852/Screen-Shot-2022-04-12-at-11.14.12-AM.png" alt="Screen-Shot-2022-04-12-at-11.14.12-AM.png"></div></div>

Watch. There’s reverse bias here. He plays for my favorite team. He’s a mediocre third pair d man that probably shouldn’t be in the top six of a contending team.

This is a perfect example of how garbage advanced stats are for d men.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 13, 2022 at 8:22 a.m.

Thread: Moving Forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grapevine</b></div><div>If the Bruins get Scheif I will be beyond happy to see him in my favourite childhood team</div></div>

I think Boston is a good spot to look at. I just don’t know what they’d be willing to give up. If the B’s could resign Bergeron to help scheifele with his defensive play it would be perfect.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12, 2022 at 12:30 a.m.

Thread: Resign Scheif and Keep Lowry

Ehlers is great until you have to pay him $10 million a year after next season. He’ll never be worth that much, but to be fair of the guys who make that or more, how many are worth it?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2022 at 10:07 a.m.

Thread: This Could Make Them A Playoff Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>No one wants to play for this awful team for more then one year</div></div>

Anyone with any foresight would rather be buffalo than Chicago right now

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2022 at 9:51 a.m.

Thread: This Could Make Them A Playoff Team

I like olofsson but I would do this. Seems like a decent hockey trade.

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