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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 12:24 p.m.

Thread: Throwback To Bad Times

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuzzledActuary</b></div><div>This isn't even as bad as it was a few years before that....
Daniel Cleary
Drew Miller
Justin Abdelkader
Jonathan Ericsson
Jimmy Howard

One of the worst NHL rosters put together in NHL history, courtesy of Ken Holland. The turnaround that Yzerman has created already in his short tenure is incredible. Obvious credit to the players as well who make it all happen.</div></div>

Yeah lmao, this isn't as bad as it was.

If I had a roster from the prior seasons to this saved I would've used it for sure, but this is the oldest I had sadly.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 7, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.

Thread: Bert at the deadline

Guy forgot Holland left a while ago.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2022 at 1:38 a.m.

Thread: Red Wings Projected Lines

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>Detroit has a decent shot at the playoffs this year</div></div>

We'll be improved but the chance we make the playoffs is slim, with Tampa, Florida and Toronto locks in our own division and Boston expected to grab the 4th we would need to hope for a 5th spot being available due to teams in the Metropolitan division underpreforming.

And even then it'd be between us and Ottawa, which many analysts say are better than us.

So I hope we make it but probably another year of missing with us probably placing 6th in our division.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2022 at 12:44 a.m.

Thread: LFGGGGG

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>One problem at a time.

Gurianov doesn't deserve a raise over what he has now unless this year proves otherwise. Hints will get a huge raise but Pavelskis 5.5m is coming off the books.

They will lose a player or 2 but they can make it work.</div></div>

Pavelski is still a pretty damn good player, but he's 38.

Is he expected to retire after his contract expires or just head to free agency, because even at his age a lot of teams would pay tons of money to get him.

Even on a 1 or 2 year deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2022 at 12:38 a.m.

Thread: LFGGGGG

How does Dallas expect to resign Hintz, Gurianov and all the other expiring young players?

Ain't nobody taking those Seguin or Benn contracts. :grimace

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2022 at 10:05 a.m.

Thread: Full rebuild

Why would Detroit ever consider this...

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: After Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Stecher lost his spot to Lindstrom and then got injured. It would be pretty amazing to get a 3rd for him. I do think Pittsburgh is the team that gets Namestnikov and a Pittsburgh fan proposed Namestnikov for Pettersson and I would do that in a heartbeat.</div></div>

That's fair

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.

Thread: After Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letter_Kenny</b></div><div>They're still draft picks. Teams don't trade them for the sake of trading them.</div></div>

Trading a late 4th and 6th to get a 50% retention isn't for no reason.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2022 at 9:14 a.m.

Thread: After Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Leddy to Florida isn't crazy but I see them getting more like cheap depth guys. Maybe stecher gets something I still think names only gets a 3rd. Juolevi was waived for a reason, and knowing Blash we probably don't even see him on the ice for a few weeks.</div></div>

That's pretty fair.
Stecher could get a 3rd.
I could see some desperate playoff team throwing up a 2nd for Nammy at 50% retention but a 3rd is most likely.
I named it after deadline for a reason so Juolevi will be back by then (hopefully).

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2022 at 9:10 a.m.

Thread: After Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letter_Kenny</b></div><div>You'll be lucky to get a 3rd for Leddy. He's a rental.</div></div>

How valuable do you think a late 4th and 6th are?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.

Thread: After Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letter_Kenny</b></div><div>Why do you think Florida would trade 3 picks for Leddy?</div></div>

He's the type of player they need, plus it's not like they are massive picks.
3 late picks around the 25-32 range isn't that bad at all lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 10:42 a.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Then there's no deal to be had. There's no incentive for Detroit to trade Hronek unless there is a VERY good return. I wouldn't even trade him for Edmonton's 1st round pick if they keep winning. It would need to be top 15 to even consider a trade. Then, when you factor in taking on the corpse of Mike Smith as a cap dump, that's an additional 2nd round pick. Then Greiss, with retention, is a 3rd. Lagesson has zero value and has already passed through waivers.</div></div>

Fair, could you see any prospects that we'd maybe be interested in?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 9:22 a.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>That Edmonton trade is abysmal for Detroit</div></div>

What would you suggest as the return, I doubt Edmonton would want to give up a 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 9:13 a.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangle</b></div><div>wings would have to take ryan murray back otherwise the avs have no space.</div></div>

Ah, thanks for the heads up.

But would the value be fair after that?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2022 at 7:32 p.m.

Thread: Deadline I Would Prefer

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>No they don't, because Staal isn't waiving especially to go that far west.</div></div>

Talking from a hockey standpoint, if an offer like that came in for an aging player like Staal it's a no brainer.

But good take on NMC, but I could see him MAYBE moving for the rest of the year to win a cup.

Keeping his family in Detroit.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.

Thread: Deadline I Would Prefer

Detroit Accepts.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.

Thread: 2022 2023 Edmonton Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I don't think it's really worth it for the red wings. Niederbach, Tuomisto and Soderblom have more development than Bourgault. They meet the timeline a little better than the added picks. If they want to dump Keith's contact they can add Yamamoto that's fine. I would take it Keith wouldn't play anyways.</div></div>

Fair point.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 3:52 p.m.

Thread: 2022 2023 Edmonton Oilers

Don't like how we're giving away Soderblom and Niederbach.

But that haul we get in return is pretty damn good.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.

Thread: DONE

How many times are Montreal fans going to trade Petry to us before they realize that we don't need or want him.

Especially if it costs us Zadina.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 2:26 p.m.

Thread: Retool

Yzerman hangs up and blocks the caller.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.

Thread: Team 1 Which Team is the Best

I have legit never seen Larkin play on the wing, and I have watched about every game he's played in the NHL.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.

Thread: Rebuild

Why...

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.

Thread: No rentals

2 players on fantastic contracts and Jake DeBrusk for Future Considerations?
He must be pretty good.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.

Thread: WPG Whats his cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gpmack95</b></div><div>Wings fans say 3rd</div></div>

We're fine with a 3rd, but he could fetch a 2nd with and maybe without retention.
Just depends on the offer.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 9:38 a.m.

Thread: Could this happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>like 1/2 the 1st round in his draft year was defensemen.
Further more a lot of guys in that draft class have yet to really get playing time. Like Bernard-Docker.
So the whole points thing means nothing to me. Hell there are guys above him who have way more games like Brady T. or Svechnikov.
But no matter how you put it, it's not changing the fact that in even strength/5v5 play the guy has 3 goals and 9 freaking points.
I don't care what kind of mental gymnastics you go through to justify what ever it is you are thinking. 3 goals, 9 points.
Last year it was 3 goals 13 points. in roughly the same amount o games.

Lets be clear about it. There is a problem with the play. That is not acceptable production for a 22 year old 6OA.</div></div>

Last season the guy was getting 1st line minutes pretty much every game except the 11 that Vrana played.
This season because of Raymond, Bertuzzi, Fabbri and even Namestnikov he is being forced into a bottom 6 role.
And like Larkin last season, he's working on his 2-way game more and more to the point where he is usually the best part of those bottom 6 lines.
Plus, doesn't that point production with less ice-time not show some improvement in his offensive game?

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