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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4, 2018 at 3:48 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2018 at 11:44 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2018 at 11:31 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2018 at 11:26 p.m.
Thread: Desert dogs
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2018 at 11:13 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Christiansilvestri</b></div><div>Okay doesn’t mean it’s not a fair trade</div></div>

This is a lateral trade for the Coyotes, AT BEST.
a) Chychrun is what you'd hope the 5OA turns into in terms of D prospects. Chychrun is a potential top pairing defenseman who
b) The Coyotes currently have a glut of left handed forwards so trading Domi only to add two more left handed forwards makes no sense. Also, neither of those guys can play center.
c) The Coyotes have an internal budget so young, cheap talent, like Domi and Chychrun, are what the organization needs, not guys in the mid to late 20's who will probably just bolt after their contracts are up.
I hate to break it to you but you're not getting an establish, young, middle-6 winger and a potential top pairing defenseman who's only 20 for a player with some health concerns (and is a guy the Rangers should be looking to build around potentially because he'll only be 27 when the season starts) and a guy on the wrong side of 30, meanwhile, neither guy fills a need for the Coyotes. The Rangers are might not contend for a couple years, and neither of these guys are valuable enough to return potential franchise cornerstones or even established young talent unless someone drastically overpays or you take back bad contracts. You'd be better off trading them for prospects who might help you out or first rounders that you could package to potentially move up in the draft and grab a franchise altering player (hello Jack Hughes and Alex Newhook). The trade makes no sense for the Coyotes.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2018 at 7:45 p.m.
Thread: EDM 10 OA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rja</b></div><div>It makes sense in theory, but I do not think anybody in the top 9 are trading out of their spots. There is a drop off after the top 9 and I think these team will want to pick the best available. There are also tons of centers that are projected to be very good in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I just think everyone stays put.
1- Dahlin
2- Svech
3- Zadina
4- Tkachuk
5- Boqvist (I think they need to replace OEL who will be on his way out)
6- Hughes
7- Wahlstrom
8- Bouchard
9- Dobson</div></div>

- Boqvist's concussion history should scare anyone with a brain away from him. I think it's hard to believe that he could end up being the last defenseman selected (last of the big 4).
- Ottawa already knows at this point if Karlsson will or will not resign with them. Without any significant D prospects besides Chabot, they're probably going to want to beef up their D pool.
- Centers in the 2nd and 3rd round will be good depth adds for teams prospect pools but it's very rare that they develop into the top 6 centers. Very few prospects drafted in those two rounds will end up being as good as Kotkaniemi is projected as. If a team doesn't like any of the d prospects available, it's not unthinkable for that that to pick Kotkaniemi. There's just too many possibilities for a team to take him if they trade down to 10.
As is, I think the draft order will go (assuming no trades)...
1) Dahlin
2) Svechnikov
3) Zadina
4) Hughes
5) Bouchard
6) Tkachuk
7) Dobson
8) Kotkaniemi
9) Wahlstrom
10) Boqvist

If Montreal thinks Kotkaniemi is going to be that good, then there's no reason to not draft him 3rd if no one is willing to trade back.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2018 at 4:39 p.m.
Thread: EDM 10 OA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rja</b></div><div>Which team in the top 9 needs a center more than winger or defenseman that would pass the top 9 on the board?</div></div>

I didn't necessarily say that a team in the top 9 will pick him, however, there could be a team on the outside looking in trying to get a top 6 center for the future that would be willing to give up pieces to move into the top couple to get him.
Teams are clamoring for top 6 centers (and very good center prospects) and with how fast Kotkaniemi's stock has been rising as of late, there's a good chance someone takes him before he's projected to be picked.

1) Buffalo will take Dahlin unless they're idiots
2) Carolina, baring some unforeseen trade or love affair with another prospect, will take Svechnikov.
3) This is where things get interesting. If some team loves Zadina/Tkachuk enough, they could make a move and drop Montreal down. Not sure if they'd accept a trade out of the top 9/10 but if the Islanders come calling with picks 11 and 12 plus other pieces on the board (Lee + possible contract dumps?), I wouldn't be shocked to see them accept it. If they know that Tavares won't resign, they'll definitely be looking for a top 6 center and their Center pool isn't all that great.
4) Ottawa, unless they are in love with either Tkachuk/Zadina (whichever one falls to them) will more then likely take a D man (Hughes).
5) Arizona can take pretty much anyone they feel like. Wahlstrom helps their need for RHS forwards that can put the puck in the back of the net. Bouchard helps their RHD prospect pool. Kotkaniemi would help their center pool. They're one of the more likely teams to trade down to pick up another asset, IMO, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do so. If they don't, they'll probably take BPA. (Islanders could come into play here).
6) Detroit has been rumored to be willing to trade out of their spot (Islanders say hello again) but their biggest need would be a Dman. I'm predicting they take Boqvist because of the Swedish connection but again, Islanders, or another team, could be in play here.
7) Vancouver needs defense and they have no real reason to trade down. They take the best defenseman available, whether that be Dobson, Hughes, Bouchard, Boqvist - all depending on who's still available at that point.
8) Chicago will more then likely just take BPA and I wouldn't be surprised to see them take Wahlstrom if he's still available at this point.
9) New York can take BPA as well but will probably lean towards taking a defenseman.

That's my prediction to how it will go down. I'm not saying that the Islanders will trade into the top 10 but they are one of the teams that could do so simply because they have the ammunition to do so. I'm not hating on your comment, simply stating my feelings about the draft possibilities.
Picks 3-10 are wide open and any team desperate enough to acquire a future top 6 center may take Kotkaniemi above his projected draft slot.
Also, center's can make the transition over to the wing a heck of a lot easier then it is for a winger to make the transition to center (unless the extensively played it in juniors/college).
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2018 at 12:09 p.m.