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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 30, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
Thread: Alright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>math731</b></div><div>Drysdale is a RHD and you already have two elite ones. Sanderson would look amazing alongside Seider in a couple of years. If not, Askarov could be your franchise goalie at 9 and im sure Yzerman loves him just like he loved Vasilevski back in 2012. Or simply grab Perfetti, Holtz or Lundell</div></div>hooked on phonics lately?<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>me</b></div><div> <strong>if </strong>Detroit wanted a d-man they'd take Drysdale at 4- <strong>-but Detroit doesn't need another d-man. </strong></div></div>...can just as easily buy a left-handed top pair d-man for nothing in free agency when very few other teams can afford those kind of cap hits over then next 3 flat cap offseasons or gasp teach one of their many prospects to play defense off-handed.

Mantha is still more valuable as a 30-40 goal scorer than a prospect with potential to answer your other points... prospects don't always achieve especially goalies and smallish Jr hockey goal scorers.

Plus you can't have a team full of no ones with all prospects if you want any kind of fan base to buy seats--whenever that becomes available.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 30, 2020 at 8:57 p.m.
Thread: Alright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>math731</b></div><div>Why keep him if youre rebuilding tho? This team wont be competitive before 4-5 years (till then, Mantha will be 30 yo and his best years behind him)... Adding a guy like Sanderson plus great assets would be much better for your team imo</div></div>Sanderson? You really don't know what you are talking about---if Detroit wanted a d-man they'd take Drysdale at 4--but Detroit doesn't need another d-man. Detroit's recent picks on defense (2016 1st round: Dennis Cholowski projects as a 2nd/3rd pair LHD. 2016 2nd round: Filip Hronek projects as 1st pair RHD. 2017 2nd round: Gustav Lindström projects as solid 3rd pair RHD. 2018 2nd round: Jared McIsaac projects as 2nd pair LHD. 2019 1st round: Moritz Seider too soon to accurately project but expectations are also 1st pair RHD. And they have plenty of cap room to go after the top UFA d-men if they wanted.

Now, getting back to <strong>Mantha. He's turning 26 (and 30 means 3-4 more near peak years. </strong>You do realize Brendan Shanahan was 29-34 during Detroit's Cup runs of the late 90's early 2000's). Mantha is just now figuring out just how dominant he can be on a consistent basis and his play will be crucial in the rebuild. There is no reason to get rid of him at this point...only if he continues to get hurt in fights would there be any consideration to get rid of him....otherwise it's a ridiculous consideration.

In 2016-17 Mantha had a slow start to the season but still finished with 17 goals but fought Luke Witkowski leading to an injury that cost him the last 5 games of the season.

In 2017-18 Mantha had 24 goals (but didn't get hurt during fights with T. Hamonic or R. Kesler) and played 80 games.

In 2018-19 Mantha fought Patrik Nemeth after a questionable hit on teammate Dylan Larkin. Mantha had surgery on his hand, but missed a month. The Wings were 12-12-3 when Mantha got hurt; 15-20-7 by the time he returned. He put up 25 goals in 67 games.

In 2019-20 Mantha had 12 goals in 29 games when he went after Maple Leafs defenseman Jake Muzzin after a dirty hit on teammate Madison Bowey. Muzzin slew-footed Mantha which lead to a punctured lung. His 16 goals in 43 games extrapolates to 30 over the course of a full season. Yet, most agree that Mantha has the skill set to be a 40-goal scorer. If not he'll be an upper 30's goal scorer....

You don't give up on 40 goal scorers when they are 26 unless the return is mind-boggling.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 30, 2020 at 7:10 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 30, 2020 at 11:30 a.m.
Thread: Habs Cup Domination
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steve_321</b></div><div>dude come on, you know that deal would get done in a second. Mantha is injury prone and you are getting a true 2nd line center and a legitimate d man, plus a pick both who are very young.....</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>redwingsfan04</b></div><div>For a guy that’s been on pace for 74 points? Pass</div></div>


As a biased Habs fan, I've run this trade in my head (and on here) a million times, but the biggest thing is when you look at Domi vs. Mantha with respect to advanced stats since they entered the league, Mantha is just dominant, leading 8 out of 10 RAPM categories. Knowing this, it means Montreal would have to pay a lot more than Domi, I'm still open to it and I think there is a deal to be made there since Detroit should be at least open to a trade, but I think the value of Mantha calls for Domi + Caufield + Mete + low 2nd / high 3rd round pick.
Forum: Mock-DraftJul. 10, 2020 at 12:01 a.m.