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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 15, 2022 at 1:39 p.m.
Thread: Jeff Carter LAK-PIT like trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>You dont get the retention without a 1st</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>I dont think you get TWO years of retention for that offer, let alone the player</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>I’m with Salzy — no need to trade while retaining Rico without a 1st coming back</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Uncle Rico is only available with retention this year for the right price, since he is not a rental, we are in no rush to ship him out the door, as he is still our 1LW and more productive scorers.</div></div>

Ducks are in a rebuilding stage as Adam Henrique doesn’t fit the timeline it’s in their best interest to move him this year or next so they don’t lose him for nothing. If he is to be traded the ducks should retain salary because he is on a pricey contract to maximize the trade value. The benefit of trading this year rather than next is not only is his value is his highest now but also with his contract being half retained the ducks would save $5.8M over 2 years instead of $2.9M over 1 year which matters to rebuilding teams. The ducks won’t receive a 1st for him as the leafs have so kindly shown the league don't trade 1sts for old mid rentals; Nick Foligno. The Jeff Carter trade I was referring to didn’t even evolve a guaranteed 2nd round pick. Henrique is better than Carter so a 2nd round pick should be guaranteed. If Rickard Rakell didn’t get a 1st he won’t.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 21, 2020 at 10:07 a.m.
Thread: Kyle Dubas vs Lou Lamoriello TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MichaelSimonetta_97</b></div><div>ya but lou woudnt give marner 11 mill or even nylander 6</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>All Lou does at this point in his career well is build a good culture. Kyle Dubas drafts like it’s NHL 20 and can see every prospects potential before the draft. I’d take Dubas over Lou all day</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MelonVK</b></div><div>Right, cause paying Komarov 3m is better value than Nylander under 7? Look at the cap situation NYI is in now lol.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Difference being that TOR wasn't going all in in 16-17 and 17-18 unlike in 18-19 and 19-20.

Also Lou wouldn't have given Marner 100% of what he wanted just because he's Marner.</div></div>

Lou wouldn’t have signed Nylander for 7 and would have kept Martin at 2.5 and Komarov at 3. Every year for every playoff team it’s cup or no cup. No one prefers to make in to the conferences 5 years in a row instead of winning a cup. Lou would have been like marc bergevinconstantly rebuilding and competing at the same time. Dubas has changed his all talent belief; look at his off season moves.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 21, 2020 at 8:13 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 20, 2020 at 8:42 a.m.
Thread: Reverse Kessel TOR-PIT like trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>Not really. It's a collection of scraps that you don't need that we also don't need.</div></div>

Liljegren is our top Rhd prospect with low elite potential.
Kerfoot is a solid 2nd/3rd liner on a solid contract.
Holl is another solid NHLer born in Minnesota.

I don’t see the wild competing for a cup any time soon better to sell high on Spurgeon get some good assets and get the rebuild going. Spurgeon also has a NTC and will be 37 years old on his final year. Minnesota got ripped off selling Eric Staal too late. Another year or two he may be looking like Ryan Suter who is a great player but hard to move cause of his contract on a rebuilding team. This trade proposal is similar to the Kessel trade that worked out for both TOR and PIT.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 18, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 18, 2020 at 5:04 a.m.
Thread: PK subban
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PittsburghBob69</b></div><div>Good luck w/ the highly prized prospect? Who Flip Hallander?? He was our 4-5th best prospect in a really bad minor league system. What are u talking about..lol..S.Poulin, P.O-Joseph, N.Legare, and probably Drew OcConnor are all more highly thought of than Hollander. And maybe even behind J.Maniscalco. Good luck man!! He wasn’t apart of our future. I’ll take Kapanen and his reasonable contract over the next 3 years over Arimov(really, just a shot in the dark and he’s atleast 4 years away from contributing; he’s gonna turn out as good as Liljegren).

And u know hockey isn’t like basketball or football u idiot. It’s not like the 1st line is the starting team. 1st and 2nd lines are interchangeable. Being a top 6 forward is probably what u mean. It’s like saying, well Zach Hyman is better than Tavares or Nylander. Taveras/Nylander play on the 2nd line.

Look man, the sh*t you’re saying just keeps getting dumber and dumber. Just stop while u are already way behind. U just keep getting more and more behind and look stupider and stupider every time u post something. Look at the chain, you make no sense and it proves everything I said.</div></div>

Since picks don’t mean anything to you you might as well trade them all for a box of tissues to wipe your eyes... after Liljegren recovered from mono he never looked the same. This draft was deep. No Free agent wants to sign in Pittsburgh unlike toronto for minimum, I’m happy getting rid of a 3rd liner in Kapanen making 3.2 and getting a third liner in thorton, who is currently better than Kapanen for minimum. Crosby and Malkin’s days are ticking, when is Kapanen magically going to turn into this great player you make him out to be. I know probably when the team starts rebuilding.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 18, 2020 at 2:44 a.m.
Thread: PK subban
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PittsburghBob69</b></div><div>Lol, not our fault Toronto paid Ceci 4.5M/yr and had him playing on the 1st pairing w/ Reilly and had him playing 1st pairing minutes. As a 3rd line Depth D-Man, making 1.2M for 1 yr. isnt a bad signing. He’ll play 10-14 minutes a game. We have Ruthwedel as a RHD depth for our 3rd pairing too.So, if he’s not serviceable, he’ll be sitting in the press box as a healthy scratch and Ruthwedel will be our 3rd pairing RHD. No harm no foul at 1.2M.The Pens are not strapped for cash, like the Leafs, and have to try and dump 4 starting players(that no one else wants) for 1 to get under the cap. See u know nothing, not a horrible signing, just stop. Yes, was a horrible signing at 4.5M/yr to play on the Leafs 1st pairing. Yes, a bad signing. Not as a depth defensemen that won’t crack the 3rd pairing and won’t crack 14 minutes a night when he plays(which won’t be every night either).</div></div>

I believe the ceci signing/minutes by the leafs was a way to disguise how bad the Zaitsev trade was for Ottawa and to maintain a good relationship with the other gm. Zaitsev making 4.5 for the next 4 years bad signing by Lou Lamoriello is a 7th d at best. Your Gm traded a top 15 pick and a highly praised prospect by the leafs for Kapanen. Kapanen’s first year he got 9 points playing on the 4th line. His second year he got to play with matthews because nylander was having contract issues, leafs had bad RW depth and tavares was promised to play with Marner. That year he put up a career high 44 points playing with one of the best in the league (matthews). His 3rd year when nylander returned to his spot with matthews he was given every opportunity to play in the top 6 with the big 4 and could’nt preform a top 6 role. He will never be a 1st line player, he currently is a 3rd liner and at best he’ll be a second liner.