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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.

Thread: Embrace the mediocrities

Isles would need a real center or center prospect back in a Pageau trade. Maybe Garland and Raty for Pageau? Lol.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGJul. 17, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.

Thread: A few mooves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tm0000</b></div><div>I'll breathe a little easier if Parise decides to not retire. A top 9 of:
27-14-13
18-29-21
11-44-26
is pretty solid. If Parise retires and they have to replace him with Fasching, Gauthier, and/or Holmstrom, it's very likely a downgrade.</div></div>

That’s fair, but I like Gauthier as a bottom six winger and I’m a fan of Holmstrom too. Holmstrom shows flashes of higher end skill, but it’s a consistency issue rn.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGJul. 17, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.

Thread: A few mooves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tm0000</b></div><div>The money doesn't work anyway. Isles would need to move out more $$$ than Zeek to fit DeBrusk under the cap.</div></div>

Tbh I’m less worried about the isles than most. Just like I was last season when they lost Barzal, Pelech and Wahlstrom to injury and still made it.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGJul. 17, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.

Thread: A few mooves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>Not gonna lie the metro is pretty solid this year with a lot of competitive teams there is a solid chance isles don’t make playoffs and that 1st becomes a lottery pick which could be big for bostons futures</div></div>

I’m assuming the only team from last year that misses the playoffs is Boston

Forum: Fauteuil - DGJul. 17, 2023 at 9:57 a.m.

Thread: A few mooves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LPProductions</b></div><div>no reason for the Bruins to do that Islanders trade. just bad</div></div>

Agreed. Also the isles are pretty attached to Cizikas and probably wouldn’t want to trade him anyway.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.

Thread: Summer of Tre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingExLeafs</b></div><div>Teams around them have gotten better. The Red Wings, Sabres, Sens, and Penguins will all compete with the Islanders for that final wildcard spot. Without adding scoring help the Islanders will find it tough to compete.</div></div>

The scoring help should come in the form of a fully healthy Barzal/Horvat duo. Also despite the fact that some young teams in the Atlantic have improved, the isles should feel confident in their relatively young d core + their elite goaltending. If they need to add scoring help, then they will be in position to add it at the deadline.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.

Thread: Taking a step back to move forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>That is another way to go for sure. The problem is the lack of decent C options with term available on the trade market. I'm not huge on Dvorak being the answer to their needs.</div></div>

I get that, but I do think he’s an option worth considering.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.

Thread: Taking a step back to move forward

The Canucks shouldn’t feel pressured to dump Garland due to cap constraints. They would be much better off trading Beau for a 3C with term like Dvorak and seeing what the team looks like with three quality centers.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.

Thread: Summer of Tre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingExLeafs</b></div><div>With Nylander the Islanders make the playoffs. Without him they are a lottery team.

Wahlstrom isn't putting up 40 next year. The value for the Leafs in this deal isn't the two prospects or picks but cap space. The value for the Islanders is getting playoff revenue and making Barzal and Horvat better players by bringing in an elite winger.</div></div>

The isles made the playoffs despite major injuries to two members of their core in Barzal and Pelech. They also lost Wahlstrom to a season ending injury and only got Palmieri back in the second half. I’m not sure how this team takes a step back with all those guys having a full summer to recover. That’s not even accounting for Dobson and Romanov’s continued development coupled with a full year of Horvat + Engvall. Isles aren’t going to be in the lottery unless they have severe injury issues again.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.

Thread: Summer of Tre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingExLeafs</b></div><div>This trade heavily favours the Islanders actually.

Debrincat was traded for the 7th overall pick. PLD was traded for good NHL players, a decent prospect and a pick. And Nylander is better than both of them.</div></div>

If you really believed this deal favored NY then you wouldn’t have proposed it. Toronto is in cap hell and even if they weren’t Nylander would be lucky to fetch a return greater than Wahlstrom and a first based on his age and contract status.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.

Thread: Summer of Tre

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingExLeafs</b></div><div>This trade heavily favours the Islanders actually.

Debrincat was traded for the 7th overall pick. PLD was traded for good NHL players, a decent prospect and a pick. And Nylander is better than both of them.</div></div>

Dubois’s value is based on the fact he is a 1st line caliber center and DeBrincat was just traded for pennies on the dollar. Both players were RFA’s in all three aforementioned trades, and they r both younger than Nylander. Now I’m not saying Nylander isn’t better than either player, but no matter how you look at this it’s a gross overpayment for the NYI.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.

Thread: Summer of Tre

Nylander is not worth two first round picks, a prospect selected 11th overall and an additional quality prospect also selected in the 2nd round.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Lol this is a terrible take. I wouldn’t trade Michkov for ur entire team let alone just for Dobson. The Isles are already falling apart and will be rebuilding soon anyway might as well try something different</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>The point he’s making is that Philly is full of mediocre assets, not that Philly should trade Michkov.</div></div>

The point I’m making is that the isles shouldn’t trade Dobson unless they get an unreal return.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>FWIW:

1) I think the Islanders would be better team for the next 2 years at a minimum after this trade

2) Honestly, I'd add even more to this from Philly's perspective to get this done</div></div>

1) Without Dobson their blue line falls apart.

2) Only guy I’d be interested in acquiring from PHI is Michov.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>V123</b></div><div>True but still I don’t think they should do this because they are rebuilding but also islanders would never accept that trade (or would they...)</div></div>

Not sure how many 6-4 puck moving righty d men are out there to replace him, but if I had to guess it’s somewhere between 0 and -3

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>Yeah pretty much the reason why. I look at this as Philly giving the Islanders a hugely needed boost up front while helping them clear a little bit of cap space and adding an additional asset they can use to help them later down the road. From Philly's perspective, they just hope that the Islanders are comfortable enough with the rest of their defense and Sorokin to move on from a player that can be a foundational piece on their defense for years to come</div></div>

There is no good reason for the isles to trade Dobson.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2023 at 11:26 p.m.

Thread: Nylander blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EichelTower9</b></div><div>I think Isles could really use another game-breaker in that top-6..Barzal,Bo,Willy,Lee,Nelson and Pageau is a pretty damn unstoppable top-6. Isles still have a pretty good D-core and have Sorokin between the pipes. Leafs almost certainly ask for one of Pelech,Pulock, or Dobson and a bit more...</div></div>

You can ask for anything, but that doesn’t make it realistic.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.

Thread: Nylander blockbuster

Pulock still has a NTC, and the isles still aren’t asking him to waive it. Also the team trading a top pair righty d man is never the one adding to the deal. Especially not for a winger, no matter how much I like his game.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.

Thread: Too much or what

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>joshelkin</b></div><div>Hanifin is only 26. If you’re moving Pageau out it’s very easy to accommodate. Especially for example if you think someone on an ELC like Iskhakov isn’t far away. This season a 3C vet plug would work</div></div>

Iskhakov hasn’t played center in North America since College at best.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.

Thread: Hellebuyck and nylander trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GarthBrooks</b></div><div>It's just to give lou time if he's confident he can break down Nylander if not it can be a sign and trade</div></div>

No one worth playing for can give Nylander 10 million dollars a year. He only wants that much because Toronto overpaid all their star players on five year contracts. You can’t give out that kind of AAV without way more term.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.

Thread: Hellebuyck and nylander trade

Doesn’t work cap wise for the Islanders. Also without an extension Nylander’s value is lower than what ur suggesting imo.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.

Thread: Have your cake and eat it too

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Hanifin is awful on the PP, he is a good puck mover at 5v5

Aho was one of the isles best defenseman last season…</div></div>

Btw who the heck is Ledford?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.

Thread: Have your cake and eat it too

I really like Hanifin as a player and he’s really shown why he was the first defenseman selected in the 2015 draft during his time in Calgary. However, this is not only an egregious overpayment but makes no sense from a fit standpoint. The isles number one need is adding elite talent to their forward core. Hanifin doesn’t fill a significant need and extending him would result in the isles defense being made up of guys in their early to mid thirties for the next decade.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2023 at 11:33 p.m.

Thread: Never happen but it would be interesting just for laughs

They are all #1 overall picks.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2023 at 11:30 p.m.

Thread: Rangers got better this off-season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>Well the problem with Jones is that if he doesn’t beat out Gus for 3LD, they’re gonna trade him rather have him sit in the press box

I’m not opposed to those lines at all, but there’s so many rumors about Panarin not wanting Kakko on his line</div></div>

If that’s really the case then Laviolette should tell him that he can pick his linemate when he starts producing in the post season. They seem like a perfect fit on paper tbh.

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