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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.

Thread: Guentzel Trade

Rakell has one assist through six games this season. Same to say he isn’t going anywhere right now.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

Thread: Barza back at center

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>He’s the 3rd best center on the team</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>$8.5m 3rd line center is a big yikes</div></div>

He vanishes when matched up against top talent. We saw it all of last post season and at the start of this year.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 24, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.

Thread: Both Teams Need This Deal NYI PIT

Moving Pageau would significantly weaken the bottom six, while helping a division rival improve in an area of need. Rackell is the better player, but I can’t see the isles trading Pageau straight up for Rackell tbh.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 21, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.

Thread: Not panicked yet

I’m surprised that Vancouver is willing to retain on a quality player like Garland. Personally, I would try and move Beau/Myers with 50% retention to clear space before dealing Garland for peanuts.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 5, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.

Thread: Losing our non offensive 4th line

Duclair was just traded for Lorentz and a 5th rounder. But if you take George out of the deal and this makes sense to me.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 23, 2023 at 9:36 a.m.

Thread: Nelson Hanafin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ihopeigetit</b></div><div>Loads of salary retained in that deal which also included Acciari... The 1st in the O'reilly deal was also a late 1st, while Ostlund was picked 16 and will be closer to NHL ready than a 2024 1st would be - he would also have 3 years at an ELC as it slides while he's in Europe...</div></div>

If it was Ostlund + a late first I’d get it, but you actually asked for a second in this deal. Also Ostlund might have been taken too high….

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 23, 2023 at 8:27 a.m.

Thread: Nelson Hanafin

In a hypothetical world where the isles r out of the playoffs and willing to rebuild them Nelson would fetch at minimum what Ryan O’Reilly fetched last year. I don’t see either scenario as very likely tho given the importance of having a strong defense and goaltending to a teams success.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 22, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.

Thread: ALL IN - 1 Last Time for The Core - 3 MUST Get YOUNGER Trades away

The issue with this trade is that the Islanders number one need is a speedy top six winger, and Boeser is not known for his foot speed. Also this organization won’t benefit from selling low on Pageau and Wahlstrom. Islanders decline imo.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.

Thread: madness

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Hard pass! Senko wasn’t exactly amazing for NYR.. overpayment for sure.</div></div>

I think the main point of this trade is dumping Goodrow tbh.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 31, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.

Thread: Can Nylander play C in the NHL

I think Nylander can absolutely play center at the NHL level, but he shouldn’t in Toronto. Tavares is elite on face offs so moving him away from center is going to hurt the leafs more than it helps them imo.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 26, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.

Thread: Buhhhh yeah

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Our RW's are clogged. Tomasino and Evangelista will be genuine top 6 players and Kemell is going to be a great goal scorer once he's adapted. We don't really have a need to bring in Nylander.

If we REALLY wanted him, we could also just wait until Toronto can't afford him and then sign him for free next year when we're in a better position to compete.</div></div>

I think the ability to slide him to left wing or even center makes up for most of ur concerns, but I appreciate and respect ur position. That being said if you look at teams like Colorado, Tampa Bay and Vegas then I don’t think you should be worried about having surplus star power.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 26, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.

Thread: Buhhhh yeah

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>I don't think Nylander get's us over the hump either. Even if we move some of our assets to acquire him, there still leaves the issue of our depth, which is lacking. Plus, I doubt Trotz is going to bring in Nylander and then pay him more than our captain.

Trotz said he wants to retool on the fly. Take a step back before taking one forward. We have a lot of young players who are taking massive strides in their growth as well has having 5 first round picks playing in Milwaukee this season. Bringing in guys like Schenn and ROR to mentor the rookies while letting them get the minutes they need.</div></div>

Any addition worth making in Nashville will probably require paying someone more than the Captain. The cap is about to see a huge spike, and players will take that into account. Nylander is a dynamic PPG forward who has experience at all three forward positions. I wouldn’t hesitate to add him.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 26, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.

Thread: Buhhhh yeah

I don’t blame Trotz for believing that Forsberg, Josi and Saros can lead a team to a title, but I don’t believe that Pesce is the guy who gets them over the hump. They would be better off targeting William Nylander who would be a huge addition to their top six. Whether or not McDonough can bounce back from last season will determine whether or not they’re blue line is championship caliber regardless of any Pesce acquisition imo.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

Thread: Underrated

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Funny, I don't recall Severson playing for the Edmonton Oilers.

But I certainly agree that he's overrated. He ended up on the 3rd pair in NJ due in part to the defensive lapses.</div></div>

Sorry. Sometimes I just think of the Oilers as Draisaitl/McDavid and that’s it. Like how people think Barzal/Sorokin with the isles.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2023 at 2:41 p.m.

Thread: Underrated

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>Overpay does not equal overrated.</div></div>

He ran a mediocre second unit PP on the most offensively gifted team in the entire NHL. He has a tendency to make the big mistake, and last year was the first time his plus/minus was positive. He would be making Brett Kulak money if not for the fact that he’s a righty, just like how Mayfield would make McNabb money if he was a lefty. Right handed defenseman just get grossly overpaid, and grossly overrated too.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.

Thread: Underrated

Severson is incredibly overrated if his contract is anything to go by and the same goes for Korpisalo. Also pretty much everyone knows how good Josi, Andersson, Roy, Sandin, Thomas, Kuzmenko and Stutzle are.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.

Thread: Off Season into Deadline

I think a more likely package would be Wally, Johnston, a first and a third but that’s mainly for cap reasons. It’s a decent offer that I think the isles would seriously consider.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2023 at 12:04 a.m.

Thread: Paying for Kaners Surgeries

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>What part of that package is supposed to entice the Rangers into moving on from one of the best prospects we've ever seen just because he's "only" scoring at a 40 point pace?</div></div>

Both these trades are bad for Chicago… not the other way around. Nazar is a high end center prospect and Rinzel + Kurashev have value too. Add in the picks and this is a hard no for Chicago. Also Jan Rutta is a negative asset, so idk what this guy was thinking there either tbh.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.

Thread: deadline moves

Scheifele doesn’t fill a real need in NY. If the isles were to make a trade with Winnipeg then they would have to be targeting Connor imo. Not saying Winnipeg wants to move him, but that’s the type of player the isles and every other team in the league wants/needs.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.

Thread: Garland and Rathbone for Brannstrom and Joseph

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>It really depends on what you think Brannstrom can become. He put up pretty decent defensive metrics last year and if he could still develop into a #4 I think it would be worth it.</div></div>

I agree with you, but I’d try and see if you could trade a less versatile winger than Garland if you have to take back Joseph. I doubt Ottawa would want Boeser though.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.

Thread: Garland and Rathbone for Brannstrom and Joseph

I personally wouldn’t trade Garland for this return, but I understand what you are trying to do here and I can respect it.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.

Thread: An Islander Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>Sure. We will let you enjoy the final 3 years of his contract then.</div></div>

I’m not worried about his contract, but I understand why you wouldn’t want to trade DeBrusk or Frederic for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.

Thread: An Islander Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>At even strength last season:
-Frederic: 31 pts with an average time on ice of 11:24
-Pageau: 32 pts with an average time on ice of 13:18

What does that make of Pageau if he can't outproduce a 4th liner? With at least $2.5M-$3M higher cap hit? Also, if you think Grzelcyk is a 3rd pair D, you should want the Isles to acquire him because you only have two good defensemen in this case and he'd become your 3rd best.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Newgod77</b></div><div>Frederic scored 17 EVG last year which would have been 3rd on the islanders. But he’s a fourth liner. Cool story man</div></div>

Not easy to compare the production of a center to a winger. Also while I think Frederic could play higher in the lineup, he doesn’t move the needle for me.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2023 at 8:57 p.m.

Thread: An Islander Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>At even strength last season:
-Frederic: 31 pts with an average time on ice of 11:24
-Pageau: 32 pts with an average time on ice of 13:18

What does that make of Pageau if he can't outproduce a 4th liner? With at least $2.5M-$3M higher cap hit? Also, if you think Grzelcyk is a 3rd pair D, you should want the Isles to acquire him because you only have two good defensemen in this case and he'd become your 3rd best.</div></div>

The isles have Dobson, Pelech and Pulock. He’s probably not better than Romanov and Grzelyck. He would he be their 3rd best lefty at best.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2023 at 8:03 p.m.

Thread: An Islander Trade

Isles aren’t gonna retain on Pageau in exchange for a fourth line winger and a third pair defenseman

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