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ALL IN - 1 Last Time for The Core - 3 MUST Get YOUNGER Trades away

Created by: Sidstick87

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 21, 2023

Published: Aug. 22, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

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▐▐ *At the very least The Pens NEED ▐▐

▬ 1- Younger legit 3C :
Eller is NOT a 3C anymore, Need a 3C that can produce,
take pressure off of 87/71, & play Top 6 Center if 87/71 are out

▬ 1- Younger Top 6 to 9 RW Forward :
Can NOT have a Top 6 or 9 of 95% 30+yr olds,
MUST have at least some young Forward legs

▬ 1- 3rd Pairing RHD :
Must have a Vet 3- RHD w/ POJ or Smith,
Ruhwedel is a #7 on a Playoff type team.

▬ 1- #2 or #3 Goalie :
Liked Ned as a #2 w/ DeSmith but Not now as our only option

▬ 1- Younger Top 9 LWer :
I love our 4th line & our Depth but we Need 3rd Liners

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*How The Pens should Look at Team - (bf these Trades)

1} - Guentzel ▬ SID ▬ __________
2} - Smith ▬ GENO ▬ Rakell
3} - ________▬ _________▬ Rusty
4} - DOC ▬ Eller ▬ Acciari
13} - Nieto

1} - MP28 ▬▬ EK65
2} - Graves ▬▬ Letang
3} - POJ/Smith ▬ __________
7/8}- _________ / Ruhwedel

G#1} - Jarry
G2/3} - ________ / Ned

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▐▐ {3} - Team Trade "Break-Down" - [PIT] - [VAN] - [NYI]

[PIT] get :
- RW- O. Wahlstrom
- RD- J. Woo

[VAN] get :
- LHD- T. Smith
- C/RW- J.G.P.
- RW- V. Puustinen
- 24' 2nd Rdr [NYI]

[NYI] get :
- RW- B. Boeser (w/ $.650 Retained)
- LW- F. Hallander

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Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Benoit, Simon		1	$800,000
Meloche, Nicolas		1	$775,000

Trades

PIT

Additional Details:

[PIT] Extends T. Novak :
- 3yrs @ $2.5m per

NSH

Nylander, Alexander
Pickering, Owen
2026 2nd round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

CONDITIONAL: 2nd Rdr
"ONLY IF" after 23'-24'
[RFA] Tomasino Re-Signs
"IF NOT" turns into :
2026 4th Round Pick

PIT

Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
Wahlstrom, Oliver
2024 2nd round pick (NYI)

NYI

START of :
{3} - TEAM TRADE
[VAN] - [PIT] - [NYI]
▬"Break-Down"▬
In Description Part

PIT

Boeser, Brock ($650,000 retained)
Woo, Jett

Additional Details:

(2nd) PART of :
{3} - TEAM TRADE
[VAN] - [PIT] - [NYI]
▬"Break-Down"▬
In Description Part

VAN

PIT

END of :
{3} - TEAM TRADE
[VAN] - [PIT] - [NYI]
▬"Break-Down"▬
In Description Part

NYI

Boeser, Brock
Hållander, Filip [Reserve List]

PIT

BUF

Broz, Tristan [Reserve List]
Friedman, Mark
2026 3rd round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

CONDITIONAL: 3rd Rdr
"ONLY IF" U.P.L. is on
Roster all of [23'-24']
"IF NOT" turns into :
2026 6th Round Pick

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$81,029,300	$0	$212,500	$2,470,700

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Wahlstrom, Oliver $874,125$874,125 RW RFA - 1
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Tomasino, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW RFA - 1	Novak, Thomas $800,000$800,000 C UFA - 1	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 2	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 6	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka $837,500$837,500 G RFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD RFA - 1
	Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($350,000$350K$350,000$350K) G UFA - 1
Poulin, Samuel $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW RFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1
Hinostroza, Vinnie $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, LW UFA - 1
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1
Zohorna, Radim $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1
Gruden, Jonathan $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW RFA - 1
Butcher, Will $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 1
Benoit, Simon $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 1
Ouellet, Xavier $762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 1
Woo, Jett $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD RFA - 1
Meloche, Nicolas $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA
Hellberg, Magnus $785,000$785,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Letang, K.		Guentzel, J.		Crosby, S.
	Karlsson, E.		Malkin, E.

Power Play 2
Wahlstrom, O.		Rakell, R.		Smith, R.
	Letang, K.		Joseph, P.

Penalty Kill 1
	Letang, K.	Pettersson, M.
	Rust, B.	Eller, L.

Penalty Kill 2
	Jokiharju, H.	Graves, R.
	Acciari, N.	Smith, R.

Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.

Not_Isles5513

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The issue with this trade is that the Islanders number one need is a speedy top six winger, and Boeser is not known for his foot speed. Also this organization won’t benefit from selling low on Pageau and Wahlstrom. Islanders decline imo.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.

sabresparaavida

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Sabres decline, I don’t think they’re looking to move Jokiharju

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.

wojme

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Sabres have almost no reason to make that trade. No need to trade joker for an older worse dman. No need for another center prospect. No need to get rid of UPL who will be the backup/1b. It makes them worse overall.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.

remowilliams

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Canucks pass.IMHO.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.

gmgb

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Conditional picks based on a player re-signing aren't allowed by the NHL anymore (even when they were legal, I can't recall ever seeing one applied to an RFA before).

Regardless, NSH declines. Pickering would be nice to have, but not at the expense of Tomasino. The 2nd and Nylander isn't enough for Novak. Overall the value's tilted too much in PIT's direction.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:31 a.m.

BUFF36

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Buffalo declines, I wouldn't Trade Joker alone for that. If Joker can find consistency in his game he will atleast be a good 3RD. He can play the minutes and is a really good skater. There were some nights last year I thought he was there best Dman. Needs to find that consistency IMO

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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You should brush up on what conditions are allowed.

Also buffalo obviously declines

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:46 a.m.

Play_Party_Hard

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Too much going on here. Dubas has made his moves, time for training camp to play out.

Top-six is going to be fine.

Aug. 22, 2023 at 9:56 a.m.

Pens3lieve

Hockey IQ

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I at least like the ideas but if those players were available they would have alrdy been moved

Aug. 22, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.

#10

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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Hallander just signed a 5 year deal in his native Sweden, No team is touching him. As his NHL days are pretty much through.

Aug. 22, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.

#11

JLance

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Quoting: wojme

Yeah pretty much this. Sabres have no need to send assets away without the return of a legitimate prospect, regardless of NHL role. Broz is probably Alex Nylander.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.

#12

JLance

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Quoting: BUFF36

I won't take this space to fluff Joker, but he's more useful than the trade insinuates.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.

#13

BUFF36

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Quoting: JLance

I won't take this space to fluff Joker, but he's more useful than the trade insinuates.

Everyone needs a good fluff now and then!

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.

#14

HulkVader

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Yeah, terribly unrealistic and ill conceived.

Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.

#15

sabres89

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Quoting: BUFF36

I was gonna say roughly this, although I'm not as interested in seeing jokiharju here either way. The package that was offered doesn't get a young right handed d, that is already a bottom pair (with middle pair ceiling) nhl player.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.

#16

AEcho

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NSH declines. NSH has no need for Pickering as they already have a wealth of defense prospects, and with the signing of Molendyk this offseason, Pickering would very much a luxury and not one worth paying for at the cost of Tomasino, who has a possibility of flourishing in the top 6 of NSH playing a system that works for how he has played in the past under Burnette. Additionally, NSH isn't going to part with Novak for Nylander and a 2nd as it isn't enough to get Novak.

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Aug. 22, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.

#17

AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: wojme

^this

Sabres definitely decline

Aug. 26, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.

#18

Sidstick87

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Quoting: Not_Isles5513

Very Fair, My thinking on Trade is other than that I LOVE Wahlstrom & think he could have a break-out yr...
Is that Lou is looking for an upgrade Top 6 Winger & as a Pens fan, I wouldnt like Boeser on Isles & think he could be great there

Aug. 26, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.

#19

Sidstick87

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Quoting: sabresparaavida

Sabres decline, I don’t think they’re looking to move Jokiharju

Fair, I just see 4- Starting RD on BUF

Aug. 26, 2023 at 9:41 p.m.

#20

sabresparaavida

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Quoting: Sidstick87

Fair, I just see 4- Starting RD on BUF

If you’re including Lybushkin, he was traded, and if you’re including Dahlin, then we only have 2 starting calibre LD. That doesn’t want me to trade someone who 21 minutes a game for us last year.

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