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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 21, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.

Thread: Yamo and Kulak Out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KrakBirds23</b></div><div>Then why move him? As the proposing team it sounds like what is being said is a second round pick and low cost veterans are more valuable then him on your roster. So numbers aside there are other issues and maybe it's the contract making it a dump.</div></div>

You move him because you need to re-sign Bouch and McLeod and I'd personally like to see Bjustad and Kostin stick around with raises.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2022 at 10:45 a.m.

Thread: Oilers Deadline Deals

Really? What would it take to get Varlamov in addition to Koskinen?
Yamo to Kraken has huge upside for them, plus he's from WA they'd love that.
Chiarot I have no idea, but I don't see them getting a first. Habs definitely need a PP QB.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Trade for AA Sign Haula

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db_2984</b></div><div>I think it would be a bad idea for the team to have $6m of dead cap space. Pouliot and Sekera were brutal enough. I would love to see Athanasiou and McDavid play together though.</div></div>

Buyouts aren't my favourite either, but the Oilers need to be in win now mode next year. If Neal prevents them from giving McD a prime winger that's a damn shame.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>And I'm still waiting for you to name 10 players in the entire league who consistently score 20+ goals per season and who got paid less than $3.8M in free agency.</div></div>

So you think Neal is a pretty hot commodity then? Because he scored 20+ goals many times in his career? How many goals do you think he'll score in the final 3 years of his deal?

Why would any team give up a pick for Neal at 3.8M x 3 when they could just go grab a younger, better player like Leivo or Fast for less and give up nothing?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>That's silly. Name 10 players in the entire league who consistently score 20+ goals per season and who got paid less than $3.8M in free agency.</div></div>

You really think a team will give us a pick for Neal at 33% retained? I watch every Oilers game and Neal isn't your average 20+ goal scorer. Useless 5x5, slow, drags linemates down. He's purely a PP producer now.

You're also proposing that Neal will CONTINUE to score 20+ goals for the phantom team trading for him. Ain't gonna happen.

Best case scenario is we trick Seattle into taking him, but that'll take a miracle.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 3:56 p.m.

Thread: Holland needs to smarten up

Oilers don't have a 3rd rounder, it's going to Calgary in the Neal-Lucic trade.

Also why would they break up the hottest line in hockey?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 3:53 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>A pick. Any 25+ goal scorer at $3.8M has positive value. 33% retention adds the same amount of room as the buyout does, but it only lasts for 3 years vs 6.</div></div>

Fair enough. If you can find a taker for Neal who'll send a pick back that's like finding Willy Wonka's golden wrapper. My thinking is that no team would do that, but I'd love to be wrong!

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3, 2020 at 6:19 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>If you truly think Tierney is a 3.5m X 5 player, would think Ottawa wants a similar return like Bear.</div></div>

I think Tierney is a good 3C. He makes 3 now, how much do you expect him to sign for? Less? No chance a 3C returns Bear.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Isn't that a awful trade for Ottawa. A 5 million player (which you signed for him for). Tierney, for Chaisson and a very iffy NHLer.</div></div>

What do you add to Puljujarvi and Chaisson for Tierney? Mid round pick?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Even with 33% retained a trade is a better option than a buyout.</div></div>

Who are you getting back in a Neal trade though? Another cap anchor most likley. I don't like buyouts but this gives you the ability to sign Hall to a competitive contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oilfan1717</b></div><div>Don’t like the idea of Starett as the #2 goalie, especially when paired with Koskinin.</div></div>

Not optimal, but I've saved another 800k in case there is a decent backup in the 1.5M range.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.

Thread: Buyout Neal Sign Hall

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ConnorsCousin</b></div><div>Pretty sure a 20 goal scorer doesn’t need to be bought out. There’s a probably a deal in the league somewhere for Neal</div></div>

I would love a trade for Neal but I can't imagine one that gives the Oilers 3.83M savings per year on the cap.

The other option is hoping Seattle takes him, but that's another whole season away...

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 14, 2020 at 12:46 p.m.

Thread: Dadonov next year

Really like your signings, pretty much exactly what I'm hoping for with Nurse and Bear.

Dadonov I like but he's 31 in a couple months and I worry about his inevitable drop off.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 14, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.

Thread: Small Deadline Moves

Holland is a pretty conservative guy. Can't see any massive moves.

Russell for Eakin. Vegas wants help on D and the Oil need a 3C. Eakin is a UFA which is nice. Benning returns and Tippett runs Jones - Benning as a decent third pairing.

Patrick Russell down, Tyler Benson up.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 18, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.

Thread: Hall Tierney amp Francouz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>Yeah. There's no point denying that. This is also most likely the reason why Hall's contract negotiations start from $10M instead of $12M. Had he been able to be healthy and score regularily 85-95 point seasons in NJ, both his trade and next contract value would be much, much higher...</div></div>

I really hope BurgerBoss is actually Brad Treliving, and that Hall ends up in Calgary on a 7 year, 77 milion dollar deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 17, 2019 at 4:57 p.m.

Thread: Hall Tierney amp Francouz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Ottawa doesn't bite on that</div></div>

What do you think pries Tierney loose? Also is his role this year mainly defensive? I notice he's over 2 min SH TOI per game.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 17, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.

Thread: Hall Tierney amp Francouz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>Hall is a TOP7 LW in the league, Duchene is barely a TOP25 C. Comparing the two is absolutely asinine.</div></div>

Duchene in his contract year: 73 GP 70 Pts 0.96 PPG
Hall in his contract year: 30 GP 25 Pts 0.83 PPG

Not sure how you find that comparison asinine.

Worth MORE than 11M??? Have you watched any hockey this year? You're gonna be sorely disappointed when you see what he signs for.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 17, 2019 at 4:23 p.m.

Thread: Hall Tierney amp Francouz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Hall wants at least 7 x 11 No way he's signing for $8.5 million in Edmonton.</div></div>

11M x 7? I'd like that too but I'm not gonna get it lol. Hall has 6 goals in 30 games. Tell me who gives him that contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 17, 2019 at 4:22 p.m.

Thread: Hall Tierney amp Francouz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>In today's NHL, assuming Hall takes $8,5M is just ridiculous.</div></div>

If Hall wants to cash in and make 10M x 7, let someone else pay him. Duchene took 8M x 7, so it's far from ridiculous.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 17, 2019 at 4:19 p.m.

Thread: Hall Tierney amp Francouz

Only interested in Hall if he takes the Drai contract. If not, move on.
Tierney is the 3C they desperately need. This trade was tough to gauge.
Francouz is a capable backup.
Thoughts?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21, 2019 at 4:24 p.m.

Thread: Ehlers and Pageau

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Is Pageau actually worth that much?</div></div>

Pageau is on pace for a 40+ goal season. He won't keep that up but he will score 30 and he is an excellent all around C. He's getting 4-5M on his next deal for sure.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16, 2019 at 3:12 p.m.

Thread: hall to edm heating up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Any trade for hall will include a 1st , unless you want to give up Bouchard or broberg</div></div>

Stone didn't return a 1st and he's better than Hall. Hall return will be less than you think IMO.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16, 2019 at 2:56 p.m.

Thread: Hall back

Hall for Puljujarvi, Lagesson, 2nd and Gags (cap). Tried to recreate something similar to Stone deal.
Hall gets Drai money, no more if he wants to come back.
Bear gets the Brandon Carlo deal.
Nurse gets the Morrissey deal.
Kass perhaps an overpay at 3.25M.
Smith back, although that could be a cheaper backup.
K Russell, Benning, Chiasson all gone to make room.

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