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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 22, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.
Thread: Some Habs - Kings trade ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>Lol what? I don't see Caufield, Slafkovski, Suzuki or Guhle on his trades. Those are the only players on Montreal's squad that would require Turcotte or Byfield.</div></div>

Both Prospects are not progressing as expected.
Turcotte's in his 3rd AHL year as a middle 6 center until this season when he was pushed to wing.
Byfield just got sent down his 3rd year Pro

Every player you named Jumped to the NHL without any AHL time.
Suzuki and Ghule from the CHL, Slafkovsky from Europe and Caufield from NCAA.
Byfield is a good solid player who's just massive and in time should be fine.
Turcotte on the other hand is producing less then Jake Evans after he turned pro from the NCAA.
Jake was atleast the top Center when he was in the AHL playing 19-20 minutes a night.
Just saying for a 3rd year Pro you'd atleast expect improvement at the AHL level , but there's been none.

Honestly i think for Turcotte is good just dont think he's lived up to his potential and unlike Byfield he's not growing into his frame.
I mean i'd still take him based on his chemistry with Caufield alone but i view him as less valuable then you do as im not even sure being a center is an option for Turcotte.
Turcotte is 58th in points produced in the 2019 draft class and the only player take in the top 20 overall to register single digit games in his career thus far.
That was the Dach/Caufield draft to put it into context and Dach who's destroyed Turcotte's progression was traded due to him being percieved as not living up to his potential.
CHI actively shopped him and the best they could get was a 13th OA pick for a player who despite struggling was doing much better then Turcotte.

Again Byfield there's the argument he just has to grow into his massive frame to find NHL consistency, maybe get more consistent on Faceoffs.
But Turcotte IMO is in a system too deep to get the attention required for him to hit the NHL strong as a regular.
I'd give up a later 1st round pick with either a decent prospect or a mediocre one and a 2nd rounder.
That'd be about it though. Byfield i'd give up a 10th-20th OA pick , good prospect and a 2nd round pick(he can likely get more in a year if he can crack the LAK line up as a regular again)
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 18, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.
Thread: GM Hughes draft day deal
Here's the first reason why your statement that Byfield and Farrell have "similar value" is mistaken: Byfield, 6'4", 215 pounds, big hitter, already playing in professional hockey despite the fact that he's younger than Farrell; Farrell, 5'8", 175 pounds, unsigned prospect playing in the NCAA.

Here's the second reason why your statement that Byfield and Farrell have "similar value" is mistaken: Byfield -- automatically becomes your best center prospect, without much quality ahead of him; Farrell, far behind well-developed prospects like Grundstrom, Anderson-Dolan, Turcotte and Fa-gem-o if we're talking about LW, Madden, Helenius and Pinelli if we're talking about center (although I will admit that if Farrell makes it to the NHL, he has a higher ceiling than any of them and might turn out to be the next Clayton Keller).

Here's the third reason why your statement that Byfield and Farrell have "similar value" is mistaken: we have sufficient depth at all of the forward positions that Farrell wouldn't interest us; our major weakness for which we would consider trading Byfield is at LhD. IF (and it's a big IF) we agreed with your analysis that Byfield will take much longer to develop, we'd only be interested in trading for Kaiden Guhle or Arber Xhekaj.

Finally, we tend to be patient with our prospects. (See Vilardi and Turcotte.) I highly doubt that we'd give up on Byfield this quickly.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 12, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.
Thread: Organ Doners
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>I disagree. They've got plenty of speed. And they've got Byfield, Kupari and Turcotte to add speed when they are ready. What they don't have is a good left hand side of the defense outside of Mikey Anderson. Bjornfot is still marinating and will be good. But Durzi and Edler are not the answer for the left side. Guhle would look great on a 2nd pair with Roy.



And what team are the other posters on this thread fans of? ;) Let's take their opinions with a grain of salt. From an outside perspective, Guhle is probably playing a little over his head right now. It happens often with freshman players, and then they come down to earth a bit in their second season. But "way out of his depth" isn't a fair assessment either. He's been real good and he's going to continue to be real good. I like Guhle's first pair potential, with a floor of one of the better 2nd pair defensmen in the league.</div></div>

I guess their team winning in the regular season gives them license to be arrogant. They, like the Kings, have done a wonderful job with player development.

I do think that arrogance cuts both ways though. Most Leafs fans can't see the forest for the trees when discussing what it takes to get to the post-season vs what it takes to win in the post-season.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 22, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.
Thread: defence
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>LA needs a BIG left handed defenseman. Brannstrom is not that. This wouldn't be a trade LA is interested in at all.

Speaking purely to the value, one has 36 points in a total 83 NHL regular season games (good for 0.43 PPG) , the other has 34 points in 134 games (good for 0.25 points per game). Points aren't everything, but when it comes to offensive defenseman it's a pretty good place to start when it comes to comparing cost. The age gap isn't anywhere near large enough to argue ceiling/upside/development for one over the other.

Spoiler alert, Durzi is the 0.43 points per game player. Ottawa would be sending the pick, not LA.

Again, this is not a trade LA would be doing anyway.</div></div>

Ottawa is sending the pick.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 20, 2022 at 2:04 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 20, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread: Best Case Scenario Part 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>There's a significant value difference between the President Trophy winner's 1st round pick and a bubble playoff team's first round pick. Not to mention the value of the prospect that you mention (Gabe Vilardi &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ty Smilanic). And Sean Walker, while still needing to show he can come back from a major injury, is a 2nd/3rd pair defenseman who can run a power play in the NHL right NOW, which has value in and of itself.

All of that adds to a much more significant package than the one you're trying to compare it to in the Chiarot trade.

I'm not saying you won't get that value if you ask around the league (heck, an unproven defenseman just got a 1st rounder from Dallas), I'm just saying that I don't think that's something LA is willing to pay. At least, I wouldn't if I was in charge. The defense LA has showed last year they can handle the stress of the NHL enough to get them to the playoffs without the need for additions.</div></div>

Hey, you're the one calling yourself a bubble playoff team. I myself see LA as a solid number 3 behind Calgary and Edmonton. I'd think I'm flattering you. I think a lot of what you're saying is true but its also proving my point. Yes, Vilardi is regarded higher than Smilanic. But is Vilardi going gangbusters right now? No. And regarding Walker, I think its just a numbers game, plus fair or not, major injuries knock a player's value down a peg or two. I honestly included Walker because of several articles I read about LA-Sanheim trades and how Walker is the odd man out on the blue line on the right side. Its ok to have a good player that you trade for an also good player where you have more organizational needs. And yeah, Dallas just did that trade so I think my overall point is I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, but we know GMs pay up. And to your last point, yes they got to the playoffs. And then they got ran around by the Oilers. That's not disrespect from me, that's just what happened because there are some young players learning. But, I personally think that every team and every GM doesn't want to just "make it" to the playoffs. They want to win. Let me put it to you this way: would you rather the Kings did not make this trade, maybe made more minor/"bargain bin" trades, and got bounced in Round 1 again. Or, would you rather the Kings make this trade, and perhaps others, and say won at least Round 1 if not also Round 2, and then extend Sanheim say 5.5x5 (give or take 750k). I think a beefed up Kings squad could beat Edmonton in a rematch. I think they could beat the Blues, the Wild, Vegas, Nashville, Dallas. I really see Calgary and Colorado being too much to go past now. At some point, just "making it" isn't enough for the GM and the team. They want to win.

Your team has the benefit of a few things: Veteran players from the last core still playing well (Kopitar, Doughty, even Quick last year), "young veterans" who have established themselves (Kempe, Iafallo, Danault, Petersen, Arvidsson), young players who are either stars or still have potentially crazy upside (Fiala, Anderson, Bjornfot, Durzi, Byfield, Kaliyev, Vilardi), and good prospects that could step in soon OR be used to help you now in a trade (Turcotte, Faber, Kupari, JAD, Spence, ****emo, Clarke). Maybe I'm just very high on them, but I think they can afford to sacrifice what at the end of the day is a small part of those riches to maybe go on a run while you have these guys in your lineup that are in their prime or still playing at elite levels for now.