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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28, 2019 at 11:06 a.m.
Thread: Ranger Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spanky227</b></div><div>You are asking for too much of an overpayment-- this is fair for just Namestnikov. Adding a 1st or Jost is overkill, even with Buch and McQuaid. Rangers would be dumb to give up on Buch rn. With Hayes/Zucc leaving at the deadline, put him back with Kreider and Zibanejad instead of Howden and McLeod.

One deal I would do in a heartbeat is:
Namestnikov, Kreider, Hayes, Zucc, Rangers 2nd rounder for Makar, Bowers, Ott 1st.

Namestnikov&gt;Bowers (by a little bit)
Hayes (extended)+Zucc+2nd+offset of above trade = Ottawa's 1st
Kreider=Makar (at least this has been the reported prospect the rangers require to let go of kreider)</div></div>

Don't make me laugh.

First of all, why Makar keeps showing up in these conversations is beyond me. Second, you're overvaluing Sakic as a GM. He can declare with the straightest of faces he is not breaking up the future for the present..he knows damn well HE will need to give to get.

So, let's take a look at the potential assets to move: Wilson? Soderberg? Nemeth?? Giving them away brings WHAT back? Thirds for the forwards and a fifth at best for the defenseman. So, where is the asset that is a match for Namestnikov..and I mean, just Namestnikov? It has to be either in the minors or in future assets.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spanky227</b></div><div>You are asking for too much of an overpayment-- this is fair for just Namestnikov. Adding a 1st or Jost is overkill, even with Buch and McQuaid. Rangers would be dumb to give up on Buch rn. With Hayes/Zucc leaving at the deadline, put him back with Kreider and Zibanejad instead of Howden and McLeod.

One deal I would do in a heartbeat is:
Namestnikov, Kreider, Hayes, Zucc, Rangers 2nd rounder for Makar, Bowers, Ott 1st.

Namestnikov&gt;Bowers (by a little bit)
Hayes (extended)+Zucc+2nd+offset of above trade = Ottawa's 1st
Kreider=Makar (at least this has been the reported prospect the rangers require to let go of kreider)</div></div>

Once again we have someone trying to move Kreider, when the Rangers are going to need a foundation player to rebuild from, alongside of Zibanejad to support the incoming players in transition. Not the right move. Zucc would make sense if Colorado was breaking up their top line; wanted to add him to MacKinnon and Rantanen, while dropping Landeskog to the second line to increase offense on that line without giving up assets.

According to this, <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Foppa21</b></div><div><strong>Makar and the Ottawa 1st aren't going anywhere. </strong></div></div> that will never happen; so, no Zuccarello. So, that's that.

In the buyer's market, declaring the unwillingness to part with assets (picks and/or prospects) is ALWAYS either a smokescreen for something big, or for trying to get more from a particular team.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Liam2497</b></div><div>As a rangers fan I think they would also be interested in AJ Greer</div></div>

So if a Namestnikov for Greer deal could be struck, the scouts whom have been spotted at Colorado Eagles games could be lining this up for Joe Sakic and Jeff Gorton. But this deal seems [to me] to be the base for a larger deal.. especially if the Avalanche are looking to fill in numerous spots; this is why I proposed the larger deal.
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Philu916</b></div><div>Have seen that Fox is from NY and really wants to be on the Rangers and there’s supposed chatter of him not signing with Carolina aka Vesey not signing with Nashville and just joining the Rangers for free.
And I also do not expect Hayes to get Connor plus Vesalainen but one of them if Duchene signs with Ottawa.
And Chiarelli has made several horrible trades. Hall had 90 points last year and Larsen isn’t anything special, not an elite top pairing dman... Eberle for Strome etc.</div></div>

I'll take these one at a time:

If Fox wants to be a Ranger, he can refuse to sign a contract with Carolina, wait for the end of the off-season, and sign with the Rangers without compensation conflict. Trading Mats Zuccarello to a team who doesn't need his skill set, MAY only get you the draft pick (and I think you'd like to see him be more than a salary dump, if possible).

After October, I passed on the idea of trading Hayes to Winnipeg. They are a first-place team, with very few holes; everybody beat the dead horse idea of Winnipeg needing a second line center well beyond the typically accepted 8 feet under. Saying that, there are deals that Hayes and others can attract..that being IF Gorton wants to even move him at all.

While I would love to see Connor on the Rangers, I just can't see it happening in your Hayes' deal, without more being involved.

As for Chiarelli, I will not dispute his past transgressions; he only has one of the following two moves in his chess game: trading Draisatil for some depth, or trading McDavid for lots of depth and deciding that Draisatil is the option to build the team with.

Let's face it, EITHER move will be his last. But, let's not let him have his death sentence be served over Chris Kreider and Jesper Fast.