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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2018 at 11:45 p.m.

Thread: Pacioretty

I think MTL can have much more than a Top 6 D-man and a low 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2018 at 11:42 a.m.

Thread: JP 2018 Habs

Essentially a 3rd overall pick + a steady 30 goal scorer for ROR : no thank you.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2018 at 11:41 a.m.

Thread: Montreal Canadiens realistic offseason (Setting up for Rebuild)

It seems high for Danault and low for De Haan. What's your benchmark?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 10:16 p.m.

Thread: Bergy is the man!

LOLOLOL osti

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 10:13 p.m.

Thread: Would you MTL fans do this?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Perreault is middle-6 C who is more offensive than Danault. Danault is shutdown type of C. And Hayes is soo much better than Namestnikov. Vlad had 40 points in 60 games playing with two of greatest players in the game. BTW JT Miller is almost point per game with them. JT Miller is better than Namestnikov and Hayes is better than Miller..</div></div>

Either way, no a 1st center.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 10:12 p.m.

Thread: ROR + Jenner + 1st LD

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Greysuits</b></div><div>Left wings are easy to find, there are 4 LW UFAs this year who put up 50 points each year. Down years at 25 are very different than down years at 29, its a lot more of a gamble that a 30 YO player will come back to form.</div></div>

I have to agree with you on that!

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 11:27 a.m.

Thread: ROR + Jenner + 1st LD

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Greysuits</b></div><div>ROR under team controls for 5 years > Patches under team control for 1 year
ROR 27 years old > Patches 29 years old
ROR Plays Center > Patches at wing
ROR two way player > Patches offensive forward
ROR coming off a normal season > Patches coming off a down year</div></div>

ROR plays center? What kind of an upside is that. Always depends on your needs. Buffalo have no decent LW.
You're just describing the two players and giving all advantages to ROR. Teams need both two way and pure offensive players.

And honestly that does that change to come off a down year seriously. Every player have down year. Not like he didn't show consistency in the past 5 seasons.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 11:22 a.m.

Thread: June 18 - What they should do.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>Yes extensions could be signed but I am 90% sure Pacioretty is heading out the door. He is 29 and had a huge dip in productivity this year. Do you think he is worth 2 firsts or something, because he isn't!</div></div>

Obviously extension would be mandatory to the deal. Pacioretty just want to play hockey and earn the big bucks. He spent all his career with MTL, I could see him play a major role in a team rebuild. As for his value, i'm not sure. On Feb 2018 Evander Kane was traded for a 1st and prospect... IMO Pacioretty is better than Kane.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 11:12 a.m.

Thread: June 18 - What they should do.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>Take a look at the time left on contracts...that means something.</div></div>

He still have a full year at an unbelievable discount. At some point if you want good players, you'll have to pay for them. Every pure goal scorer makes around 7M$ +, that is the price that the market command. Extension could be sign right away, no?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 11:10 a.m.

Thread: not a true rebuild. will attempt to be competitive.

Two 1st. Wow! Riot in NY for sure.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 11:07 a.m.

Thread: June 18 - What they should do.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheRiddler</b></div><div>Hudon can be a good player, but I would like to get a stronger player than him if we traded ROR, elections in the draft is certainly interesting, but I want to see victory now, not another prospect.</div></div>

So basically Hudon and a mid 1st could is fair return, but Pacioretty is not? You want goals, victory now and LW depth. I don't size you.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 11:03 a.m.

Thread: Would you MTL fans do this?

I'd rather trade for Namestnikov than K. Hayes. He is no 1st center at all. And M. Perreault is a 3rd liner, as P. Danault.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 10:58 a.m.

Thread: ROR + Jenner + 1st LD

People: explain to me. Is that a question of value or a question of need? Cause honesty saying that trade isn't fair in terms of value is either strongly overvaluing ROR or strongly undervaluing Pacioretty. Good god he scored average of 35 goals in 4 back to back season with literally no valuable center.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2018 at 2:01 p.m.

Thread: Habs go for it

I can't believe the Ottawa trade. How in the world?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 10:06 p.m.

Thread: Now Really Need a C. Bergevin not ready to rebuild.

MB gets decapitated if MTL doesn't draft in 1st round this year. No way it's happening.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 10:05 p.m.

Thread: just for fun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Mtl and Car laugh and hang up the phone.</div></div>

You are Montreal, do you? You basically move down 7 spots and ends up with Ryan O'Reilly. There is some assets that are valuable to the team, but I would definitely work around that trade to have a 27 yo big center.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 9:59 p.m.

Thread: Blahh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theBeer_Leaguer</b></div><div>That's pretty funny lol, but still, not how that works, they'd match the offers.</div></div>

For sure Reinhart and Spooner get matched. But honestly, would you match that Karlsson offer? I'd rather take the picks man. 8,2 M$ for the guy for a sole good season !!!

Two firsts, a second and third-round picks. If I'm McPhee I'm LOL.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 9:56 p.m.

Thread: Habs fans, would you have done this over domi

It is I think a decent offer. Beauvillier and Ho-Sang are sure promising but haven't prove anything comparing to Domi, who at least piled up numbers with an awful team.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 9:49 p.m.

Thread: lets hope MB has an ace up his sleeve

I've must have miss something about Carlson. Is he a 8.5 M$ d-man? God that seems a lot of money. Not saying he's not gonna get it: he will probably. But I wouldn't be the GM stucked with that kind of contract. He is no Subban imo.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 7:59 p.m.

Thread: 3-way with NYR & BUF

Thanks for the thread guys!

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 7:52 p.m.

Thread: Ryan Reaves to Mtl !!

Honestly it would be just another 3-4th liner that Montreal has plenty off.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 7:50 p.m.

Thread: 3-way with NYR & BUF

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>The team also played much better after Kane was traded and Eichel came back. So maybe the locker room issue was already addressed. RORs comments were not about April when their kids were up and playing decent for what was expected of them</div></div>

You may be right. Thinking about it though, if I'm MB, I want that trade to happen and would be ready to chip in anything that could make Botterill happy.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 6:14 p.m.

Thread: 3-way with NYR & BUF

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wagsnags</b></div><div>Can anyone explain what does the return for a player traded 3 years ago matter in today's world..... the market will dictate what the player is worth and then GM trading that player will determine if his team is willing to accept the value being offered..... does it matter that Apple sold for $96.96 on January 8m, 2016 and the price was $190.80 on June 14, 2018......

What is ROR worth today to the teams that miss out on JT that is what will set ROR's value..... if GMBots does not agree with the value he will retain ROR's services.</div></div>

Can be use as a reference value. No one is saying that his return should be equal to what happened 3 years ago. Again, just discussing stuff.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 6:12 p.m.

Thread: 3-way with NYR & BUF

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Sabres don’t love the idea of trading ROR. That first is the best thing moving to Buffalo and they have to send it to NYR, downgrade a center, just to save a year of age difference between ROR and Namestnikov and get a inconsistent AHL winger that MTL fans are praying works out. No thank you, not close</div></div>

The return could be discussed. But in any way, we've seen Subban traded for Weber in a intention of shuffling the deck and changing the locker room general ambiance. I don't know much about Buffalo's team other than being 31st last year and having a losing attitude, which ROR spoke on public place. I've read a lot about those locker room cliques, not helping the mood. So I don't see it necessarily as a 1 year of age difference kind of move.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2018 at 5:04 p.m.

Thread: 3-way with NYR & BUF

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheRiddler</b></div><div>No for Buffalo. Namestnikov and Scherbak for ROR let us little.</div></div>

What else from either Montreal or Rangers would you consider to make that 3-way work?

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