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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.

Thread: Chuck goes to his stomping grounds

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>It's a steal for Detroit. A very fair offer. But can you really see Philly trading Provy without getting a good young D back?</div></div>

I thought about hronik coming back too I this deal but wasn't sure how valued he is in Detroit. A dman of some sort on the way back would make sense

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.

Thread: Chuck goes to his stomping grounds

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Counter argument: This is a steal for the Wings. 2 x 2nds that will most likely be late, and a then 23 year old who has had minimal impact? Sign me up. Worst case Zadina turns into a 25 goal guy for Philly, but you guys get a bonified top pairing LD who suffered playing with guys like Attard and Risto this year. Fire him on there with Seider and they probably end up being one of the top pairings in the NHL.

But, maybe I'm too high on Provorov...IMO though, he's still excellent.</div></div>

I mean look at the return Anaheim got for Lindholm. I think many would argue provy is better than Lindholm as he can play big minutes and all situations (even if he isn't great on PP)

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.

Thread: Chuck goes to his stomping grounds

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>I like Provy but with Edvinsson, Johansson and Wallinder on the way there's no real need to do this for Detroit. Plus I think Philly says no.</div></div>

Coming from a flyers fans perspective, I know what it's like envisioning your future defense. I thought we would get an incredible top 4 of Morin, Ghost, Sanheim and Provy and alas we didn't. I don't think there is ever anything wrong with adding proven talent as it takes the weight off the younger guys

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.

Thread: Aggressive retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>I think the point was more that Montreal isn't going to retain that much unless the prospect offered up is much better.

It's kind of moot though, the deal died with the Ristolainen extension.</div></div>

Yea honestly it doesn't make much sense to me with risto signed, unless they know Ellis is done

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.

Thread: Aggressive retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JGDD11</b></div><div>I highly doubt the Habs are retaining on Petry, let alone that much. If they were you’d have to throw in your first rounder this year at least in order for them to consider, on top of taking back JVR for a year</div></div>

The flyers 1st this year is like 7th overall lol

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.

Thread: Aggressive retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carts88</b></div><div>I Disagree about Tk. To me he is a solid second liner that can play first-line minutes with lots of offensive upside. Allison hasn't put together a full Season and even still projects to realistically have a ceiling of 3rd liner. I like his energy a ton though and the same can be said for Tippet. Imo The flyers have away too many players like that what is a little bit of a problem when we lack Star Power.</div></div>

I guess the way I look at it is with young guys like brink and cates along with Allison and Tippett I just think TK is expendable. Also bringing in Dubois (or schiefle) along with Gaudrau helps with star power

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2022 at 3:00 p.m.

Thread: Aggressive retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Benzino204</b></div><div>Winnipeg is far more likely to trade Scheifele over Dubois; who is one of the untouchables.</div></div>

Good to know, wasn't sure where those two stood in terms of value for the jets

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.

Thread: Aggressive retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No chance Winnipeg looks at that as they aren't trading Dubois. However, value wise, a second pairing LD having a horrible year and a small, unimpressive center don't net a young 1C.</div></div>

Fair enough, I'd argue that most of the NHL sees Provy as a top pair dman (whether that's right or wrong of an opinion is up for debate) but he can play huge minutes in all situations. If it's schiefle instead of Dubois then so be it

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19, 2022 at 5:00 a.m.

Thread: Depression setting in part 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jchafe77</b></div><div>We wont have the cap to bring in Konecny. Leafs plan to activate Muzzin off of LTIR before playoffs. Also, I believe Knies is becoming an "untouchable" prospect. Dubas highly values him, so much so that I think they're working on a ELC for him to play this April after the NCAA clues up</div></div>

The Konecny trade would be in the offseason so Cao would be less of a issue as it is now.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 18, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.

Thread: Depression setting in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>That's a pretty underwhelming return for Giroux.</div></div>

I mean he's a rental who has a NMC. Getting a former 1st, an NHL ready player and a pick definitely isn't bad

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 18, 2022 at 4:37 a.m.

Thread: Depression setting in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nathanallan</b></div><div>is this giroux deal official?</div></div>

No not yet, apparently Avs have an offer in aswell and Flyers are sleeping on it

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.

Thread: giroux

Seems like a good package to me, I liked leason at the draft

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 9:21 p.m.

Thread: Doing the Richards and Carter again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rylee92</b></div><div>Don't have the cap for Risto next season, we need to resign Campbell whos going to want 4-6m</div></div>

This would be at trade deadline so cap wouldn't matter

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 9:20 p.m.

Thread: Doing the Richards and Carter again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SMH</b></div><div>Habs will definitely ask for a different prospect, they have poehling and frost is basically the same right now</div></div>

Zamula? Big Dman

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 3, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.

Thread: Tdl22

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TZ11</b></div><div>This deal is horrible for the Avs. Risto is a cap dump and a half-retained Giroux doesn't get Girard, a 1st, a 2nd and Kaut.</div></div>

People really need to stop acting like risto doesn't have value around the league. Is this trade way too much for Avs to give up? Absolutely. But to say risto is a cap dump is just incorrect. Multiple teams offered 1st round picks + for risto in the off-season. Is he worth a 1st now? Hard to say depends on the market around the league right now but he should definitely return a 2nd +

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.

Thread: what are the prices part 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>Everyone thinks they have a smart GM until they do something dumb</div></div>

So true lol

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 9, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.

Thread: Burn it down

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>instead of buying out JVR and having 1 year of 4 million hit and a 2nd year of 3 million hit, what would JVR cost the Canes at 50% at the deadline this season? We have some underperforming prospects that you can take a chance on.</div></div>

Like a 3rd and whatever prospect you wanna send, he just looks cooked outhere

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 9, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.

Thread: Burn it down

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Risto experiment not working out?</div></div>

Actually funny enough I don't think risto has been awful, not great defensively but has made a nice pair with Sanheim

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 1, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.

Thread: Sellers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan16</b></div><div>Leafs aint giving up Robertson for Girouix who will be a 3rd liner on the leafs.</div></div>

I mean that's fair, again like I said in the explanation maybe leafs aren't the best partner but that's the type of package it would take

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 1, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.

Thread: Ask for Giroux

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HikinenNisti</b></div><div>For Giroux I would want atleast a 1st round pick and a nice prospect.</div></div>

Yea I would have a tough time seeing them trade him to a metro team but definitely a 1st and a good prospect is the start

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 1, 2021 at 11:36 p.m.

Thread: Sellers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZachHymanForTheHart</b></div><div>Giroux would be amazing for our 3rd line, I think.

But not for that price.</div></div>

I guess my argument would be look at what foligno got last year... tell me Giroux is not a far better player

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 24, 2021 at 3:39 p.m.

Thread: Atkinristoellison

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>Patrick, Myers, and pick 13 are 3 fairly high end young players out the door, plus two 2nds. York, Frost, and Foerster are good but there’s not an overwhelming amount of depth to the system after that. And Couturier, Hayes, Giroux, Atkinson, and JVR are all 28+ (last 3 are 32+) so they’re exiting/have exited their prime before their prospects can fully enter theirs. There’s maybe a 2 year overlap where the old guys are still good and the young guys are contributors before the old guys fall off and the young guys take over, but without a supporting cast.</div></div>

I mean at one time I'd agree that Patrick was a big piece but it is clear that he no longer was for this team. Myers sure had good upside but we replace him with ellis/risto so I would rather have a finished product then the hopes that someone reaches that finished product

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 24, 2021 at 2:49 p.m.

Thread: Atkinristoellison

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>well philly looks a lot better now, shame they mortgaged their entire future to do it though lol, better win a cup in the next 2 years</div></div>

How did the flyers mortgage their future? Still have their 1st round picks in the next two draft, still have all of their prospects (frost, York, zamula, forester) and the only roster player they traded have been replaced or were players that were not in the lineup on a regular basis (Hagg Ghost)

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 1, 2021 at 4:10 p.m.

Thread: Big Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>irgids</b></div><div>I'm not "in the know" on ghost, but wouldn't he be more of a liability in a trade given he cleared waivers and anyone could have taken him and his contract for free?

Fill me in if I'm off on that.

Also: It would be hilarious to see JVR sign yet another contract in PHI just to be traded.</div></div>

I think people over estimate the waivers thing with many players (not just ghost). There are teams that I think would have had interest in ghost but due to it being mid season and no one having cap space I don't think they wanted the contract. Now that it is the offseason, there may be teams that have more space and are willing to take a chance on a guy like ghost (Who after being placed on waivers was the flyers best d-Men)

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2021 at 6:29 p.m.

Thread: Chucky 2 trades plus out of the box signing

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>No thanks would rather resign Gaudreau</div></div>

Fair enough honestly, just from the sounds of treliving sounds like they are done with that core and are looking for a shake up trade. My thinking is if they know they don't want to (or can't) bring Johnny back this could be the type of trade they would look at

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