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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 20, 2020 at 11:54
Thread: Hughes Reunited
<a href="/users/Kotkaniemi15" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Kotkaniemi15</a> At first I had more involved but when I looked at it I was like "This seems like a lot"

I also had Boeser involved but decided to take him out. You could add him into this and have Palmieri coming back, another draft pick, or Bratt, McLeod, Wood, Gusev, you name it.

This IS a stacked draft class as well.

I know Subban had a **** year but you have to think he could fill in at least 50% of Hughes point production for the remainder of his deal.

But I haven't seen Hughes play really. I just know he's super good and has fantastic passing vision.

What about the other way then, do we think Jersey might trade Jack?

Either way those 2 1st rounders DO have tons of value league wide; the NHL loves their 1st round picks. If VAN wanted to turn around and use them to try and get somebody else in a deal, like do another Tampa steal with Johnson, Palat, Point or maybe somebody like Rakell from ANA, they'd be able to.

Skies the limit when you have 2 1st rounders to use in trades.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 20, 2020 at 5:28
Thread: Its exactly fine
<a href="/users/MJCrv" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@MJCrv</a> I'm not a BUF fan but their most glaring need is certainly in net. They have a bunch of forwards who underperformed this year, but if you're Adams you have to expect them to play better next year or trade the ones you don't think will fit.

You say you need forwards, but there was, and is, talk of trading Sam Reinhart, who is one of the only other productive forwards on the roster besides Eichel.

The blueline is mediocre at best, but you can take Risto and turn him into a forward, or any of their guys besides Dahlin really (Miller, Montour, McCabe, Joki)

Georgiev is a potential starter, he is cost controlled still, and if you have him and Ullmark for the year it would look like a much more respectable scenario then Hutton being involved whatsoever.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 18, 2020 at 2:18
Thread: Johnny Hockeys New Home
<a href="/users/Yojimbo" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Yojimbo</a> They need a long term answer in net. It wasn't too long ago that Murray and Vasilevsky were the two best young G in the league. Calgary is also loosing a bunch of D to FA and actually need to fill out their blue line. I added Riikola as a sweetener but it addresses a need for them.

But you're right they probably don't move Gaudreau for anybody and we probably don't move Murray for anybody.

<a href="/users/LetsGoPens29" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@LetsGoPens29</a> I wouldn't say highway robbery. CGY needs a long term answer in net and Matt Murray is a young RFA with two Cups who they could sign for a long time. Unless they retained more than half of Lucic's salary we would never do that. The thing is, this addresses a need for both teams, and we have Jarry still.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 18, 2020 at 1:07
Thread: Value is prob wrong
<a href="/users/HabsFan9" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@HabsFan9</a> As a Pens fan, this is not the type of trade we would even remotely entertain. Guentzel is too good. The value is tipped on our side, as the playoff performances mixed with the chemistry with our top 6 is almost unquantifiable.

RNH is a fine enough player, but you can't think he'll just slot in and put up similar numbers with our top 6, as many noticeable players have attempted to do that and failed in the last 5 years. (Most notably Perron, but also Brassard, Galchenyuk, and Pearson.)

So no, the value is not commensurate, because of how highly we value Guentzel in hawse.

So, if you just look at their numbers, Guentzel is clearly a better player (on paper) at this point in his career (40 goal, 76 point season both higher than anything RNH has ever done. Playoff numbers are disgusting) is younger, and is valued by the organization even higher than his awesome numbers suggest.

You were right EDM would have to bring MUCH more to the table if they wanted to pry Jakey Boy away and I just don't see Rutherford even picking up the phone if Holland calls him about it, tbh.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 18, 2020 at 12:45
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 18, 2020 at 12:33
Thread: Space for PietrangeloUpgrades for Holland
<a href="/users/reelkena" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@reelkena</a> I mean Dunn is an RFA, most likely bridge guy at the moment and this is a cap strapped, cup contending team. I doubt, if he resigns in STL, it will be for much more than that.

But also, to be frank, as a guy who follows the entire league quite closely my time strapped friend, ALL you care about right now if you're Armstrong is resigning Petro. This is a win now team and he is one of the best D in the entire league; he's in a class above, on the same level as guys like Doughty, Karlsson, Josi, and Carlson and he is the team captain.

It would be nice to have your cake and eat it too but Armstrong's cake was Justin Faulk and Marco Scandella. If he wouldn't have signed those extensions this wouldn't even be a conversation, and if they end up unable to sign Petro, it will be because of those two contracts more than anything else.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 16, 2020 at 10:32
Thread: Space for PietrangeloUpgrades for Holland
I see what you're saying, <a href="/users/reelkena" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@reelkena</a> but here's the thing: Armstrong has already committed money to multiple other D that add up to a core unit. He also signed multiple guys to extensions that eat into the cap space being created for them this offseason (not close to 14M$). In other words, they're ****ed (They either make room for Petro by clearing less important pieces or loose one of the best #1D in the league for nothing)

This team is so cap strapped that they will NOT be able to retain both Petro (industry standard is 8-11M$ by 8 years for a guy of his calibre) and Dunn (3-4M$/yr on a 2-3 yr deal) without some MAJOR roster surgery (or good will discounts...LOL).

Let's look at what Armstrong has already committed to on the back end.

Parayko at 2 more years for 5.5. He does not have trade protection, but they would be silly to trade him, as his contract is very fair for how legitimately good he is.

Faulk just signed a 7 year deal w/ trade protection. For all intents and purposes, he's locked in.

Scandella just signed a 4 yr deal w/ trade protection as well so same goes for him.

Gunnarsson is signed for another year at a low hit, and Bortuzzo has another year on top of that. They're both stay at home and fairly limited when compared to Dunn, but this team values them, and they are signed already, which Dunn is not.

That's 5 guys signed to legitimate deals.

So, you say they want Dunn more than anybody on the roster... but, because math, they can realistically only have one of either Petro or Dunn.

Do they want Dunn more than Petro? That would be a more future oriented approach BUT this is a CLEAR win now team.

Further, does Berube truly trust the offensively gifted, yet young and mistake prone Dunn? They use him mainly on the PP. His TOI just dropped a full minute this season as well. (17:30 in '19 to 16:16 this past season)

So if you say Dunn is a nonstarter, fine. I've yet to speak to Armstrong myself, but it doesn't look to me like they'll be able to keep both, and I would think he'd rather resign the guy who wears the C and avg's 24 minutes a game.

To a couple of the things you mentioned, while yes, it would be great to be out of the last year of Steen's deal, he has trade protection and has played in STL for over a decade. Sure, he could do Armstrong a super solid and waive his clause, but that would be detrimental to his chances at winning again, as a contender isn't going to be able to afford him. Also, he is a super integral part of this core... he has locker room value and you can't quantify that.

So I don't see him being moved, because he probably wants to stay, and it would cost the team a lot to move that last year of his deal.

Concerning Tarasenko, they showed this year that clearly they could win without him. But he is also a dynamic goal scoring player who signed there to win a Cup. They accomplished that. You'd think they would want him around. Also, he has trade protection as well. Guys who AVG 30+ goals and 70+ points a year are rare and he is a legitimate homegrown super star.

My thinking with this initial proposal is that there's some players on this roster I don't see Armstrong moving in any scenario. Most of them have trade protection that Armstrong personally gave them on deals he signed, which means he told them, to their faces, they would be around. Sure, it's a business, but that still means something. They're also a great team that is in win now mode. As a team, they value continuity.

Players I don't see moving are Tarasenko, O'Reilly (no protection but... call me crazy but I bet he finishes his deal in STL), Schenn, Perron, Bozak and Schwartz.

Now, you could talk me into them moving Tarasenko because they were so good this year without him, BUT, he does have trade protection, so to even shop him they would have to approach him about it, and I just don't feel like that's something they'd do.

I'm sure Armstrong would like to move Steen and solve all his problems, but the guy has fallen off a cliff production wise (basically negative value to other teams) and has trade protection. I don't feel like it makes sense to even try to move him, but in a perfect world, you def start here.

To be real the movement of Allen is basically inevitable at this point. Detroit needs G help. I wouldn't even see it as a salary dump per se as the need is there on DET's end and STL should be able to get value back on any trade with Allen because the guy is talented and has legit numbers.

Sundqvist is the only other roster player on STL that I see being moved as he carries a legit cap hit, has value, and can create space by being moved.

I included Dunn because to sign Petro is to basically move on from Dunn. At least by moving Dunn you can get some legit ass value back on any trade.

If this team wants both Dunn and Petro, they'll need them both to take discounts, some other guys to waive their trade clauses, and some major roster surgery to create the space. Stay tuned!
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul 15, 2020 at 7:12
Thread: Space for PietrangeloUpgrades for Holland
I didn't fully look into the impact that would have on Detroit's cap space mixed with how many players they still need to resign (Mantha, Bertuzzi, Fabbri, and Bowey)

So for that reason, I would say you could maybe take off Hicketts and put Bowey in for him. Or perhaps have some salary retention with Allen's deal, so as to save Detroit some space. Or maybe even take Sundqvist out altogether and one of the picks on DET's end.

But this deal makes sense for both teams. Detroit needs a band aid goalie this year. They could also use a legitimate young D in Dunn and have a bunch of draft capital with which to work with.

If STL is serious about resigning Petro, Dunn basically HAS to go... there is no hope of legitimately resigning the both of them.

Seems like a no brainer on STL's part, that is, if they actually give a **** about resigning their workhorse #1D who captained them to a SC last year.

But who knows with Armstrong... guy has signed everybody BUT Petro at this point.

You'd think you'd get that deal done first, right?
Forum: NHL TradesFeb 10, 2020 at 10:55
Thread: (MIN/PIT) - Zucker for Galchenyuk, Addison, 2020 1st round pick
This package overall favors the Wild because they got a fantastic return for a Top 4 winger signed for three more seasons. It opens up their cap space and gives them 2 first round picks in a deep class. Guerin is a disciple of the Penguins management tree; he knows what he's getting in Addison.

Zucker is a good player and everything, but this type of a return is sizable and takes away the biggest piece (1st round pick) the Penguins had to add anybody else at the deadline.. Now I'm not opposed to this package entirely, although it was a lot, but the 1st round pick is also tough to lose this season in a deep draft when we already don't have our 2nd... First pick is end of the 3rd round? Not ideal in a good draft class.

Further, is 3 more years of Zucker worth it from a cap perspective? How will the Pens be signing all of McCann, Kahun, Lafferty, Simon, Shultz (lol), Riikola, Murray, AND Jarry? Probably will not be able to do that. In that regard I see this as a precursor to a potential move to add a D man where some of those RFAs will be included in the deal to make room. Either way it would be sweet to add a second round pick somehow... anyone want an old Bjugstad?! It'll probably still work once it's fixed!
Forum: NHL SigningsJul 31, 2019 at 1:49
Thread: Colorado Avalanche signed Samuel Girard (7 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tp47</b></div><div>I believe this is the current status of that trade for Colorado - really embracing the youth movement.

<strong>Gave up:</strong>

- Matt Duchene (28 yo, C)

<strong>Received (signed):</strong>
- Bowen Byram (18 yo, LHD)
- Sam Girard (21 yo, LHD)
- Vladislav Kamenev (22 yo, C)
- Shane Bowers (20 yo, C)

<strong>Received (unsigned):</strong>
- Justus Annunen (19 yo, G)
- Danila Zhuravlyov (19 yo, LHD)
- Matthew Stienburg (18 yo, C)</div></div>


Yea but now duchene signed with a division rival.

Whatre the chances he swings a playoff series between those teams.. could be multiple times in the next 3 years

If they had prioritized signing him maybe they actually win a cup earlier in their window.

Could go the other way, and maybe he never signs there, but lets not kid ourselves: matt duchene is one helluva player who could potentially win some hardware of his own.

Johansen duchene turris bonino is best center depth in the league, imagine if turris wakes up this year.

Edit: overall good deal tho if he doesn't fall off a cliff production wise, does really depend on his increased production; if he stagnates or gets worse this deal blows chunks but the odds of that are lower than him improving... prolly