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NHL Trades
Feb. 5 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
(CGY/VAN) - Lindholm for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st (VAN), 2024 4th (VAN)
The Nucks win because Lindholm was clearly the best center available this year and they are a much better team now. Great package for Calgary, generally speaking, but at the same time Van is win now mode.
They got the best center available, with teams that wanted him. Big dub.
As an aside, what does Boston do now? Dvorak? ..
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NHL Trades
Feb. 5 at 1:35 p.m.
Thread:
(MTL/WPG) - Monahan for 2024 1st (WPG), 2027 3rd (WPG)
from a hockey stand point, this clearly makes the Jets way better. They aren't good in the dot, in fact it's one of their only legit weaknesses and they went and got someone who will help them a bunch there. He might resign. But in general, they needed that help, so if he stays healthy, this was a good move by them. What, they gave up a late first and another pick if they win the Cup?
Nobody in WPG gives a flyin eff about those pieces. They have a legit cupboard of mid 1st round picks coming up. Good to see them actually make an impact trade for once.
They going to resign DeMelo, Dillon, and Monahan?
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NHL Trades
Jan. 31 at 10:31 p.m.
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(CGY/VAN) - Lindholm for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st (VAN), 2024 4th (VAN)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AK50</b></div><div>I don't like this trade for us. I just feel that Lindholm is overrated(just pretty inconsistent when looking at his career stats) and does NOT warrant this kind of package, especially as he is a pending UFA who is likely demanding 8 mil +. HB is such a great prospect to have(having a MONSTER season in the OHL), Kuzmenko still has some positive value, the 1st is a big loss to our now thinner prospect pool, not to mention these assets are all going to a divisional rival. Think Alvin kinda screwed up on this one. Feels like a big L to me.
I'd take Horvat over Lindholm any day(unless Lindholm lifts the cup with us this year). When you compare the trades, it just keeps looking better for CGY.</div></div>
Lindholm definitely is the best player in this trade. If he resigns there and plays well, it's a big time win for the Nucks as well.
He might've had a bit of a drop off stats wise but lets remember he was playing with Tkachuk and Gaudreau, they both leave and get turned into Huberdeau and Kadri... but look, he's also a beast in the dot. Straight up, having a much better season than Horvat (55.5 vs. 50 %)
Look at how good Vancouver's line up is, top to bottom. Having a #2 center who just played 1st line for 3+ seasons with a win now team sounds like a recipe for success, and I think he'll have a big rebound. Either way he's going to be a big piece of this cup run. Winning face-offs in the playoffs is YUGE.
If they end up not winning the Cup this year, and not resigning him, then yes, this will look bad.... But you have to think, if GMJR... sorry GMPA... if you think Allvy isn't gonna make a run at signing him, after giving up that much, you got another thing coming. They have to think they have a shot at getting him to resign there, or they wouldn't have given up that much. That's why its a rival tax... he prolly ain't goin anywhere
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NHL Signings
Jan. 23 at 5:29 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators signed Shane Pinto (1 Year / $775,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Or at least tipped the NHL off about what's going on...
Don't really dive into conspiracy theories... But somebody have to have told the NHL to at least investigate Pinto, right?</div></div>
Seems plausible, certainly had some motive
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NHL Signings
Jan. 23 at 12:46 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drizzt</b></div><div>Binnington is dirty... He takes cheap shots and because his a goalie he can get away with it... This year has been a quiet one but there is 5-10 cases every season when he does this or does some other annoying crybaby thing. Also his been rubbish the season after said cup run</div></div>
Ah got ya, yea I don't respect that type of ish. I saw some shenanigans obviously, and at the time wasn't a fan of those either. Since that '19 run, you are right, I've noticed his play drop off big time overall. This year looked like he might be ready to not suck, then uh... yeah. Looks like his old self again.
One of the worst contracts in the league, if we're being honest, but hey, Doug Armstrong let Petro walk so they could sign Krug and Faulk so clearly he knows what he's doing.
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NHL Signings
Jan. 23 at 12:40 p.m.
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Ottawa Senators signed Shane Pinto (1 Year / $775,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I know that, but it's still funny...
I think Dorion had a part in his suspension though</div></div>
Huh... like he narc'd him out? or was like yo Gary, make it higher my boi
To get him signed for less?
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NHL Signings
Jan. 22 at 4:55 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>I’d add Gauthier, Trouba and Cousins</div></div>
as a pens fan, in no particular order,
Tom Wilson... well I lied he's the dirtiest scumbag in the league so he's #1
Trouba
Marchand
Evander Kane
Kadri... He was dirty when he was younger I don't know about now... famous clip of Sid calling him a joke, I was watching that game live, he was throwing them high bows
Zegras is just annoying I don't care about him enough to hate him
Binner isn't dirty is he? i respect that Cup run
and legit I believe Pinto was a scapegoat so if you hate on him, gimme the deets of what he did
Gauthier went about that all wrong and I lost all respect for him, even though i clearly don't like the Flyers at all. he's like Zegras, basically irrelevant, but what pretentiousness eh?
So yeah, IDK about 8 legit ones.
But tom wilson... he's the dirtiest guy I've ever seen play BY FAR... and anyone in the Metro who has had to watch him try to hurt people in the playoffs knows this
Lots of people say Perry is dirty, so his reputation proceeds itself
His nickname on hockey reference is The Worm for gahds sakez
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NHL Signings
Jan. 22 at 4:09 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
might as well be called the edmonton aholes amiright?
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NHL Signings
Jan. 22 at 4:09 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators signed Shane Pinto (1 Year / $775,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Yeah... But everyone will joke about his suspension</div></div>
its not surprising in the least a pro athlete was "gambling", especially in today's day and age, like what'd he do? place a prop bet on his boy brady to get 3+ sog? or was he betting theyd lose and playing bad on purpose? i have a feeling it wasn't that bad... it just seemed like such an over-exaggerated suspension to set a precedent
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NHL Signings
Jan. 21 at 4:52 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators signed Shane Pinto (1 Year / $775,000 AAV)
I voted no because my man beans got ROBBED
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NHL Signings
Jan. 21 at 4:51 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators signed Shane Pinto (1 Year / $775,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I guess Pinto decided to bet on himself...
Must have gone to the Calvin Ridley school of how to be a professional sports athlete... Jokes end here, I promise...
I wonder what he'll get next year though</div></div>
we'll see how the rest of his season progresses but he had a great game against philly today. ottawa is just too far out to make a legit run this year.
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NHL Trades
Jan. 16 at 1:33 a.m.
Thread:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>The Ducks are an absolute mess right now simply filled with too many square pegs in round holes. This team doesnt even play competitive hockey and look like they belong in the AHL a lot of nights! Clearly, this team is broken, the injuries excuse doesnt fly, at a certain point players like Gibson/Zegras are injury prone players. The fact that this team has been stuck in mediocrity for so long that many of their fans cant even appreciate a legit star player like McTavish when I hear not one but certainly more than a few Ducks fans say Zegras is their best forward?!? In what world..? Cause it aint the NHL, he seems more and more like a trickshot specialist that is missing that all around game, he's easily game planned most nights and ineffective, he's not even a star in the regular reason, imagine thinking this kid can get it done in the playoffs with a few Michigans. That isn't realistic.
Signing mid 30s guys like Killorn to play that McTavish style hasnt worked out and this deal seems like a desperation trade to shake up the core that probably needs to be blown up. Strome, Vatrano, Silfverberg, Vatrano, hell maybe even Terry whom looked like a legit sniper but isnt consistent enough despite his high skill level. The NHL is all about consistency and this Ducks team has never been able to sustain any sort of success outside the first 10 games or so even when they are PDO'ng to a bunch of late comeback and OT wins.</div></div>
Lots to unpack there bud. I think they'll trade Henrique this TDL this year, he's the only piece I see being actually valuable to another team. Most of the ones you mentioned are under contract past this year, and Silfvy has completely nerfed his value as a rental with an abysmal season up until this point.
Maybe they move Frank next TDL when he's set to be UFA but he's also leading the team in goals this year so I wouldn't be surprised if they brought him back, if he likes it there enough to stay.
Terry they just signed so I don't see them doing that now.. Strome same thing he's a veteran presence, maybe a bit overpaid, but they need centers.
Concerning this trade, on paper the Ducks need D more than a forward who's a ways off from playing, but yea, Killorn was picked up to be the guiding light at the end of the tunnel... looks like it'll take a couple more seasons, at least, before they can hope to be legitimately competitive... Verbeek's got lots of work to do on that back end...
But hey maybe he'll trade Zegras for a young D on another team and it'll all make sense!
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jan. 11 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Because Cutter will be the perfect compliment to their forward group and betters fits the Carlsson timeline. Obviously there's a possibility Cutter doesn't piece it together at the NHL level, but let's be honest, he's going to be great. Drysdales injury scares and the Ducks abundance of quality defense prospects (Mintyukov, Zellweger, LaCombe, Helleson, Luneau, Dioncio) makes it clear why they felt like they could move on from Jamie. Like I said, I think Drysdale will be great in Philly, I absolutely love the fit between those two teams, but the Ducks did very well here.</div></div>
You say did very well but they overpaid for an unproven player. You say "Let's be honest, he's going to be great", and ya know for all intents and purposes yeah, he probably will be good but there's a chance he isn't good. Or can't figure it out. Or becomes Zegras part 2 like what you think he's having a good third year? Like he's just a complete unknown at the next level. You seem to think he's guaranteed to be great but there is no guarantee of that. He is much more of an unknown than Drysdale is.
Drysdale, right this exact second, makes Philly a much better team than a guy who was being...cantankerous....about playing for them. They also got an extra pick, most likely in the 30s, where it's pretty clear you can still find legit NHL players. In fact, most of those Ducks prospects you mentioned were 2nd rd picks.
Minty is good but he's a player now he ain't getting sent down. He was #10 in his draft year. LaCombe might be better later but as of right now he plays a lot and is -20 something so he's more like a prospect getting NHL time. He was a guy picked in the 30s. The rest are not even close to being anything other than potentially NHL caliber D guys. But Luneau and Zellweger were also 2nd rd picks in the 30s.
Drysdale has top 4 potential and is already on a solid deal. I get where you're coming from, the future. This deal in the long run will of course come down to how each players career unfolds.
If Cutter turns out to be a stellar player for the Ducks so be it, but as it stands right now, the Ducks overpaid for an unproven prospect. If anybody cleaned up its Philly to get the extra draft pick most likely somewhere in the 30s.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jan. 11 at 2:19 a.m.
Thread:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
Philly wins this trade until Gauthier proves he's a legit NHL player. If Drysdale plays well on this bridge deal Philly gets a top 4 guy on the back end and a pick on top for someone who hasn't played a minute of pro hockey.
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NHL Trades
Jan. 11 at 2:18 a.m.
Thread:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Wow. The Ducks undoubtedly win this trade, but I really like the fit between Drysdale and Philly. I think he is going to thrive in that environment, just look at Sean Walker's success in Philly.
Back to Anaheim now; all I can say is wow. This is a fantastic acquisition for a young Ducks team that is already stacked at forward. Cutter is the real deal he is going to be a killer in Anaheim. I have to commend the Flyers for getting a legitimately elite talent back for a prospect that wasn't going to sign with them (leave it to Briere to make the best of a bad situation), but Anaheim really cleaned up here</div></div>
I don't see how you think Anaheim cleaned up here Drysdale has top 4 potential and their blue line is bad
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NHL Trades
Jan. 11 at 2:17 a.m.
Thread:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>IDK much about Gauthier, so I am not going to vote</div></div>
he's good but he hasn't played any pro yet so he's totally unproven at the next level. solid ncaa/junior player though. They were both high picks, Drysdale being 6 overall two years earlier. But he's also signed to a legit bridge deal for the next two seasons. And Anaheim's blue line isn't good. So they must really like Gauthier to also throw in another 2nd, because that will be a pick in the 30s most likely.
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NHL Trades
Jan. 11 at 2:13 a.m.
Thread:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Drysdale is already an established NHL player while Gauthier is not.
Gauthier hasn't even been signed to his ELC yet.
The 2nd round pick should be going the other way.
Philadelphia wins.</div></div>
Yeah, and tbh, Anaheim's blue line is terrible so they needed Drysdale more from a personnel standpoint. Maybe they have a plan to flip Zegras for some help on the back end? Chicago for Vlasic or one of their other young guys?
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NHL Trades
Jan. 11 at 2:10 a.m.
Thread:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>It sucks for Philly to lose a top 5 pick this way</div></div>
Drysdale was #6 2 years earlier
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NHL Trades
Oct. 9, 2023 at 4:05 p.m.
Thread:
(TOR/VAN) - Lafferty for 2024 5th (VAN)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>Don't be ridiculous. It's Pens leftovers</div></div>
Rutherford likes his guys... so Allvin prob does too!
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NHL Signings
Oct. 9, 2023 at 4:04 p.m.
Thread:
Winnipeg Jets signed Connor Hellebuyck (7 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoraStorm</b></div><div>Seemingly, he got all the 'candies/frostings' when Scheifele didn't ???</div></div>
Maybe they were less convinced he'd want to stay around longer term
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NHL Signings
Oct. 9, 2023 at 4:01 p.m.
Thread:
Winnipeg Jets signed Mark Scheifele (7 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)
No trade protection at all eh? Hellebuyck got a ton... and some bonuses
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NHL Signings
Aug. 24, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
Thread:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Brandon Hagel (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dan_the_Man</b></div><div>Does the 3:1ratio of people here saying Mathews signing was bad make it bad? I'm not comparing the player or contract really just the CF crowd reaction to the contracts. I think it comes down to a haters are going to hate thing in a lot of cases</div></div>
Well I think he's good but this is a long deal. Tampa has a thing going so hey I'm not hatin, just sayin. I'd be more worried about Cirelli long term.
But either way they've shown they wanted to get younger by replacing Killorn and Palat long term with different guys. Now you just need them to show up in the playoffs the same way.
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NHL Signings
Aug. 23, 2023 at 7:29 p.m.
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Tampa Bay Lightning signed Brandon Hagel (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dan_the_Man</b></div><div>Haters gonna Hate!!!</div></div>
I mean they have good reason to speculative at this point, it's not even year 1 of the deal yet. Guess we'll check back in a few eh
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NHL Signings
Aug. 23, 2023 at 8:20 a.m.
Thread:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Brandon Hagel (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dan_the_Man</b></div><div>
2)f*** Yes awesome deals .
</div></div>
I just looked and there's like over 70 people who think this is a bad deal so you're def biased a little bit. You never know how players are going to react after they get the big time bag either. Wish him the best, skeptical on the term and overall value
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NHL Signings
Aug. 23, 2023 at 8:15 a.m.
Thread:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Brandon Hagel (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dan_the_Man</b></div><div>Question 1) I'm sure he does see the 1/2 dozen or so signings not named Hagel this off season observation skills leave a bit in question
2)f*** Yes awesome deals .
3) I'll also call your mathematics skills into questions because no there's plenty there.</div></div>
I wouldn't say plenty but there might be enough, depending on what he wants and how much the cap goes up.
As of now, with this extension taking up 5 more next year, there's enough to sign him for about how much he already makes and then to let go of every other cheap depth piece thats currently signed. SInce they're all on cheap deals that expire next year thats gotta be his plan anyway.
But yea if he has a great season and wants to cash in one last time... no room without a trade.
I don't watch enough TB to know about signing all these depth pieces to long term deals for big money but I've seen it come back to haunt a bunch of other teams before. Now of course, these guys have won and he's built a bigger core out so it's a different blue print, but to call them awesome deals this early you must really love the players.
Fair enough.
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