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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 4:43 a.m.
Thread: DId the pens Miss out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>Neither one of us know what was or was not offered. That is all speculation and a lot of it is clickbait.

You are also assuming they wouldn't flip him in a 3 way trade.

It could be what they wanted was defense, and say they are fine at forward.

I'm just point out that they might have been late for the party so to speak. As you can say they wouldn't take a 29 year old for Cutter, but there is a huge difference in the quality between Jake and what they actually got.</div></div>

They got a piece they felt they needed to add to their core, a 21 year old right shot top 4 D, on a cheap contract with RFA rights intact.

You seriously think Guentzel was going to land Gauthier? Teams don't trade prospects like that for guys knocking on the door of 30, even if they come with an extension agreement.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 6:49 a.m.
Thread: DId the pens Miss out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>I have pointed out the need for defense instead of a forward would be a reason this wouldn't happen. Something he did not point out.

But that doesn't mean they couldn't have flipped Jake to get it instead of taking an injury history poor performing defenseman and a 2nd.

Point being Jake as a trade piece has more value than Drysdale. Period. No one can really doubt that. You wouldn't take Drysdale for Jake right now and we both know that.
Which is why I point out they might have missed an opportunity not being ready to move Jake yet.
As PHL could have gotten a better return on a guy they could not sign than what they did. As flipping Jake probably brings back PHL a better return than Drysdale, and the penguins would get the high end prospect they would have wanted in return.
As noted above this was a bare bones trade.</div></div>

Not to pile on but the guys above are right. You don't have to like the fact that Guentzel wouldn't have been on the radar for Cutter but it is factual. You're also trying to diminish the value of a 21 year old top 5 pick because of one injury, not injury prone, just one injury. Personally don't think there's a single team that would trade Drysdale for Guentzel if their roster was youth focused and that is a key point that teams look at.
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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 20, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
Thread: Pain
While I don't disagree with all of what you're saying in the description the Cam Talbot situation in philly came down to him not playing and him wanting more money than Elliot to return once he was on the open market maybe if he resigned he doesn't look nearly as good as he has this year especially with how much the defense struggled. With Hartman he wouldn't have gotten the chance to play in the role he currently is in with the Flyers. He's playing second line minutes with Kaprizov who is a stud not saying its all from playing with him but that doesn't hurt. If he stays in Philly he's a bottom sixer. There needs to be a shake up no doubt but I don't think moves like you mentioned made by fletcher made this team play as bad as they did with out those two players they were very good last year. They need to go out and get a number 1 dman and probably add another top 6 forward and move out some of the older core player like Voracek, JVR. Ghost etc.