5th overall selection Habs select Will Smith (if Michkov falls to #5 I don’t see how you pass over him, so picking Smith is based on Michkov not being available)
Buyout Mike Hoffman. Nobody is going to pay for him (even at half retained). His buyout is actually quite reasonable, just under $1.2mil for 2 seasons.
The PLD trade:
The way I see it, if I’m GM Kent Hughes, going on year 2 of the rebuild, it makes zero sense to trade “premium assets” for a player that everyone would consider a luxury more then a necessity for the Habs. So all 1st rd picks and Habs solid prospects (Kidney, Roy, Mailloux, Heineman, Beck, Farrell, Mesar, etc.) are ALL off the table.
I already feel like trading the 37th overall pick, Tuch, and Ylonen a generous enough offer. Dvorak obviously being involved for cap and roster reasons.
For those saying that WIN should just sign PLD for 1 year and trade him as a rental and that he will be valued as a rental. I can assure you that will not happen. The risk of signing PLD to a 1 year extension and having him get injured, then losing him for nothing, makes this scenario practically impossible. The approach the Jets will take this offseason will be similar to CGY’s situation with Tkachuk. Meaning any acquiring team will be looking to sign Dubois to a long term extension. This is the only way for the Jets to maximize his value in a trade. So to actually determine the possible value the Jets could get is to establish who would PLD be willing to sign an extension with. The more teams Dubois is ok with signing long term with, the better value WIN shall get.
So the ONLY scenario I see PLD being acquired by MTL at the price I’m suggesting, is if MTL is the only team on Dubois’ extension list. If PLD is ok signing in, for example, LAK, BOS, and VGK. The Habs would basically be priced out in a bidding war. I don’t see losing out on Dubois being an issue for Habs fans however. As I mentioned, PLD would be a luxury.
Now for the far-fetched PLD trade proposal! Two conditions need to happen for this to be considered.
#1 The Jets decide to tear things down and rebuild after losing in the 1st rd of the playoffs.
#2 The Habs win the Connor Bedard sweepstakes and decide to expedite the rebuild and be competitive next season.
Trade:
WIN acquire:
Florida 2023 1st rd pick
Montreal 2024 1st rd pick (Top 5 protected)
Owen Beck or Riley Kidney (you choose)
Jordan Harris or Logan Mailloux (you choose)
Christian Dvorak (cap / roster move)
Jake Allen (cap / roster move)
MTL acquire:
Connor Hellebuyck
Pierre-Luc Dubois
Morgan Barron
I don’t see Edmundson getting a 1st. Habs fans hoping to get a Chiarot type deal, but I think it’ll more closely resemble the Scandella deal from a few years back. Maybe a bit better.
"For those saying that WIN should just sign PLD for 1 year and trade him as a rental and that he will be valued as a rental. I can assure you that will not happen. The risk of signing PLD to a 1 year extension and having him get injured, then losing him for nothing, makes this scenario practically impossible."
I get a kick out of how hard you guys are working to make it seem like Winnipeg should just hand PLD over to the Habs. You're making up the funniest scenarios trying to justify this stuff, and it's absolutely hilarious. The foolishly short-sighted very creatively imagined "Only a team that PLD would be willing to sign an extension with will be interested in acquiring him!" thought absolutely leaves out the fact that every. friggin. year. there are a large number of players that are on expiring contracts, that end up getting traded throughout the season, the majority of whom aren't extended.
If that's the best offer, Winnipeg holds on to him until there's something better, or keeps him and let's him walk, because acquiring a similar player at the deadline as a rental to replace him would cost them some sort of quality prospect/picks, unlike this.
Los Angeles can't afford Edmundson at his full cap hit, doesn't generally acquire rentals (especially those who have been injured and are coming off a bad year), and isn't about to trade what is now the Kings' first pick in this year's draft for him.
"For those saying that WIN should just sign PLD for 1 year and trade him as a rental and that he will be valued as a rental. I can assure you that will not happen. The risk of signing PLD to a 1 year extension and having him get injured, then losing him for nothing, makes this scenario practically impossible."
I get a kick out of how hard you guys are working to make it seem like Winnipeg should just hand PLD over to the Habs. You're making up the funniest scenarios trying to justify this stuff, and it's absolutely hilarious. The foolishly short-sighted very creatively imagined "Only a team that PLD would be willing to sign an extension with will be interested in acquiring him!" thought absolutely leaves out the fact that every. friggin. year. there are a large number of players that are on expiring contracts, that end up getting traded throughout the season, the majority of whom aren't extended.
If that's the best offer, Winnipeg holds on to him until there's something better, or keeps him and let's him walk, because acquiring a similar player at the deadline as a rental to replace him would cost them some sort of quality prospect/picks, unlike this.
How many times in history has a team traded a top prospect, a first rounder and another piece for 20 games of a star player? Every other year at least.
Your comment perfectly sums up the issue many Jets fans have with many Habs fans. They don't get that. Winnipeg can lose him for free, so lets get them scrubs. No; Winnipeg can easily get a package like I mentioned from a contending team, so it makes no sense to give him away for pennies on the dollar.
WIN will be lucky to get anything IMO. concerning the FLO and CGY blockbuster, no big winners yet even though FLO squeaked into the playoffs.
Here are 2 examples of what WIN may go through unless they make a trade with the Habs at the draft for what is mentioned above or similar.
(1) PLD walks like Tavares did, (Tavares was a FA); NYI gets nothing. Result = WIN losses out
(2) PLD stated he wants out like ROY did, (Roy was still under contract); WIN trades him for whatever they can get. Result = WIN losses trade but gets back something
Choose your poison!
McDavid, Connor
$250,000)
OldNYIfan, Benzino204 and Windjammer liked this.
CapFriendly
CapFriendly