The 9th OA , Benson and Strome for Kadri?? Jesus, get him on a plane out of there on the doable!! Even if Kadri was a Lady Byng I would do that if i were T.O.

Edmonton is giving up too much here, so is Min but that trade is almost close to fair

I am basing this on their needs as well as what their GM said at his most recent press conference, that he's up for trading the pick. Kadri is still young, a back-to-back 30 goal scorer and on one heck of a deal of a contract, with term, there is no way that deal is one-sided in Toronto's favour. Plus, additionally, the Oilers could then move either RNH or Leon to balance out their cap. I think this would be a win-win personally.

I understand why you would want Chicago's pick but I have to see where it lands in the lottery before I fully get behind this trade. Mostly because I want Evan Bouchard badly...

I am basing the deal solely on needs. Chicago is not rebuilding and could really use a JVR to compliment their top-6. Furthermore, I know that Chicago is high on Oliver Wahlstrom. Bouchard likely won't be ready until 2019-20, but Wahlstrom has the potential to step into the league immediately.

i dont get why edm needs kadri when they have driasaitl, rnh and strome capable of playing behind mcdavid. oilers need wing and D help

That's a very close-minded approach. Broaden your mind and think of the possibilities. With Kadri and his bargain contract solidified as the Oilers 2C, think of what Draisaitl could not Edmonton with how so many teams need 1Cs. Trading him to Canadians could reasonably get you a return of their 1st overall (which you could use to drop Zadina or Tkachuck) and Pacioretty, or to the Canes for Hanifan and Lindolm/Aho +. That'd incredibly improve the Oilers.

draisaitl is 22, kadri is 28. Yes kadri makes less then draisaitl, but he's not better. with mcdavid draisaitl punch down the middle, its one of the most dangerous 2 top 6 c's in the league. like i said, edm needs speedy wingers and help on defense. they should consider trading rnh sure, but not draisaitl

Kadri is not even close to a top ten pick by him self, let alone a prospect and a roster player. He has scored thirty goals in two seasons in a row yes, but while being sheltered by Mathews and the other stars.

I get trying to get value out of him but it’s not that high. See more of a later first round pick and a prospect

I have absolutely no issue with people speaking their minds and rebutting my threads, but if you make a claim, please make sure it is true. It is in fact 100% false that Kadri is sheltered by Matthews, and if anything, it is the either way around. Kadri's line through out the entire year and through most of last season handled the toughest assignments.

You say this like there aren’t two coaches in the game. He may get out there by Babcock but that doesn’t mean the other coach is putting his best defensive players out against Kadri. He is sheltered because there isn’t a single NHL coach that is worrying about Kadri more then Mathews. He is successful in his defensive role but he can’t have this type of success without Mathews and the other stars in the line up.

If I'm running the Oilers, and I have to choose between keeping the 9th overall pick, or adding a center who's almost as good and almost as young as three guys I already have at center.... help me out here... what am I going to do?

Kadri plays against McDavid each and every time the Oilers and Leafs meet. Now, how is that sheltering?

It gives the Oilers huge depth and vast number of options, in part, to find a way to perhaps get rid of RNH or Leon in a deal that includes that awful-looking Lucic contract.

I think they have four centers with ceilings as high as Kadri's. You just traded for the fourth best one. They probably think about trading that 9th pick for a top line right wing or a #1 RHD.

It truly pains me to say this but I can now see how the Oilers' rollercoaster past decade has affected the hockey sanity of such wonderful fans. I don't blame you all in the least, I blame your team that has put you through this.

Why on earth are we overreacting so much, all of a sudden? We don't see Kings fans wanting to trade Doughty b/c of his suspension... one dirty hit won't change the fact that he's valuable to the team.

Is Mcdavid the best defensive player in the game? Put it like this, he isn’t the guy who MTL puts Shea Weber out against, he isn’t the number one offensive threat that teams pay attention to, when you live in the shadow of a player that takes that attention, that’s being sheltered.

I think Bouchard is more NHL Ready than most people think...And personally I would be shocked if the Hawks did anything but draft a defenseman with their first 1st Rounder.

I truly appreciate your thoughtful assessment of my psychological well being and your kind attempt at therapy. If I am ever in Toronto or you're ever in Indianapolis, I hope I can return the favor.

Kadri is three years older than Nugent-Hopkins, the Oilers' third line center/top line winger/whatever they need. Kadri has 26 more goals. They each have 313 points in the regular season. Kadri has 50% more playoff points, though, giving him a total of six.

Strome has eight playoff points. https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/stromry01.html He also got one fourth place vote for the Selke, a couple years ago. Kadri got three votes. On the other hand, when you compare the number of hockey journalists in Long Island vs. Toronto, it's pretty hard to say which is the bigger accomplishment.

Does Strome have any significant offense to his name in the regular season? Nah. But he's been a bottom six player and put up thirty or so points a year. That makes him a consistent two way kind of guy, especially at his price tag. Most teams wouldn't complain about that kind of a 3rd line center. And when you add in that he's four years younger and was drafted slightly higher overall than Kadri, yeah, he might still have untapped potential? At least Edmonton should hope so after whom they traded for him. More than that, if you compare Strome to Kadri up through Strome's current age of 24, they're about the same. Kadri topped out at 20 goals and 50 points. Strome at 17 and 50. Kadri at that age was a bunch of frustrated potential and trade rumors. I don't think Kadri's development is at all the argument you want to make to try to neg Edmonton into giving away Strome, and anyway, woudn't you be happier trying to understand what strengths and weaknesses Edmonton sees in their own roster, discussing what you see as areas for improvement in Toronto's, and looking for mutually beneficial solutions?

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/n/nugenry01.html
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kadrina01.html
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/stromry01.html

Meantime, call back when Kadri gets three more postseason points, or a playoff goal. That would put him head and shoulders above the other two, but totally stop trying to claim he's better than Draisatl or McDavid. No one is buying that, but it's also not nearly ridiculous enough to pass for humor.

I look forward to hearing you try to talk me out of Ovechkin later, when you read the words under my name, and notice I'm not an Oilers fan,

double post.

Don't kid yourself. To put up such a fight in an unwinnable argument is commendable, but then you tell me you're a Caps fan - Ha! Oilers fan have it had bad, but what can I say about the Capitals, too much for one post. As a Caps fan you would have an automatic apparent bias against the Leafs anyway, which is clearly what I am reading here. The fact that you would even consider comparing Strome to Kadri is highly laughable. As a Caps fan, you definitely need a win, but you won't find it here...and you probably won't find it very often in your series against Columbus :P

You know, I have met some Caps fans who really disliked old Leafs teams as dirty, or mean, or whatever. But the Leafs have been so bad in almost every season that the Caps have been any good at all, that I really just relate.

The best way to win a conversation is to find enough common ground to agree on a goal, discuss why it hasn't been achieved, and plan a solution together.

I think your goal of trading Kadri, while possibly satirical, is fine by me. It's difficult to sell centers to Edmonton because they've got five of them they're incredibly happy with, and they need wings, defense and possibly a goalie to go with them.

One possible solution might be to send Kadri to a team that is emphatically looking for a center, such as Montreal or Carolina. They don't seem to want to give centers back, though.

The only team I can think of that might like to trade a center for a center is Buffalo with ROR, but since ROR is half a year younger with ten more goals and 100 more assists, you might need to send Buffalo some picks and prospects. Nothing first round, necessarily. They'll appreciate all the cap space.

Or we could go back in time and the Leafs could trade Kadri for Dainius Zubrus? I think I used to keep hearing that might happen? It sounds pretty good now, in hindsight. Washington should take that.

Nah. I think maybe you're frustrated with Kadri over one game. Don't panic. He'll be alright, and Toronto has lots of depth to fill in.