damn dude. didnt even give back your own OTT 1st. that is a cheap cheap cheap deal for EK65. i would pull all of the triggers haha

That is a joke. a bunch of bums and the sens don't even get their 1st back. I wouldn't give you Chris Wideman for that.

lol did you send the wrong 1st?

LMAO, you sure this isn't a troll post?

give us the ottawa first and we'll think about it

Well, I like this lineup and agree it would be a playoff team. Maybe, tho, Ottawa would want their original pick back plus Colorado’s first low to mid 20’s?) for EKarlsson and the Sens’ 2nd rounder, most likely the 32 overall.

Honestly, COL has the best chip to offer in a Karlsson trade: OTTs 2019 1st. They should be able to get Karlsson for cheap for that.

Is one year of Erik Karlsson really worth Ottawa's 2019 1st? Seems about even, but maybe Ottawa adds a 2nd?

If you aren’t giving Ottawa’s 1st back to them, start with Kaut & Girard/Zadorov in addition to the Colorado 1st.

Why should the Avs (or any team) give up much for Karlsson. Don't folks realize. that Karlsson is going to be a UFA". Apparently not. Karslsson has no motivation to resign with the team that holds his rights.

The concept of a player being a UFA or even an upcoming UFA seems lost on so many.

No. Only an idiot would give Ottawa back the more valuable pick.

(1) No. (2) No thanks.

No, the best chip Colorado has to offer in a Karlsson trade is time. EK is hemorrhaging trade value every day.

Fine. Since you're obviously getting much better offers for EK and doing so well managing your team, we'll leave you to it. And thanks for the pick.

See palhal's comment. Sooner or later, reality will set in.

I don't understand. You're wearing a Colorado jersey in your picture and DON'T want Erik Karlsson? I thought the "high" in "mile-high city" referred to altitude.

only an idiot would accept this trade as-is

Only an idiot would be in the position he's in, which is that he virtually HAS to accept this trade. Any others on the horizon?

Karlsson will do more in his time left in Ottawa than that package will in 20 years

To be honest, the responses by you Ottawa guys completely baffles me. What in the world -- the real world -- even remotely suggests that your team/GM has any leverage here at all? Seriously. In particular, if you guys think that Colorado is going to return the first-round pick that your team has already said it doesn't want, TWICE, then you're living in Fantasyland.

The reference to the 'troll post' is in the description for these trades. It isn't about whether the Avs (or their fans) want Karlsson or not, it's about what you shell out for a guy who is going to be UFA and the amount you're going to have to pay him. I'd prefer the Avs to keep doing what they're doing and grow from within with a proviso. On the right D you have Johnson, Barrie, and Timmins, Makar and possibly Meloche to come through. Unless the Avs are trading Barrie it makes little sense (and I'd be happy for the Avs to do that and replace him with Karlsson). 'EK is haemorrhaging trade value every day.' You said it yourself. Why would I want to give up that first pick if I'm Sakic? The Avs have a real need to improve the quality of their top six. Stone would be more valuable to the Avs at present. The second trade also makes little sense.

Thanks for the intelligent feedback. The reason for the entire team post wasn't to suggest that the Avs want or need Karlsson but what his value is if they do. To be honest, this team post is, as my writer grandfather used to say, from another movie; a ton of Ottawa fans have excoriated me for the value I put on EK in posts for the two teams where he's likely to end up (Tampa Bay and Las Vegas), so I thought I'd try again. I agree with you that the Avs are on the right track. The reason for the second trade is that I am not impressed with the goalies in the Colorado system, Montreal needs prospects like the two here (C and RD - Kamenev seems buried on the depth chart) and I suspect that that second-round pick will still be VERY close to being a first-rounder.

My thinking on the second trade is the Avs goalie situation is a kind of grade B-, in that there are a lot of questions. Varly's fitness, whether Grubauer can carry a heavier load, can Francouz translate his performance in the Czech leagues and KHL to North America before he's too old? (He could end up a bit of an older Hasek if the Avs are very lucky). Will Spencer Martin ever prove he can compete? I'm also glad they picked up Annunen at the draft as he was my pick of the goalies. Then there are Werner & Kvaca who are in Europe who are question marks. I believe Parker Gahagen did EBUG duty for the Avs last season so maybe he could be interested in signing for the Avs after his service ends but I'm not sure of the situation with him and the Sharks. So I'd agree there are question marks but nothing disastrously urgent.

I was all for the Avs looking at a trade for Gillies as a cheaper back-up than Grubauer and maybe trying to get Michael Stone at the same time (though he'd need to waive his NMC) as a possible attraction to his brother in free agency or a sign and trade.

Kamenev is a decent prospect who would probably have seen a lot more ice time if it wasn't for the hideously unlucky broken arm. He certainly looked the part skills-wise and I'd be a little wary of dealing him in a trade like the one you propose. Meloche is also a decent prospect but I can see why you would consider trading him if you add EK. Even if Barrie were then traded you'd still likely be looking at EJ, EK, Timmins and Makar ahead of him on the right hand side of the D. That said, the more decent 'righties' you can stockpile the better and Meloche is a more physical player so a different style option to Timmins & Makar.

I can understand your comment about OTT fans (does it stand for Ottawa or Over The Top?) and their over valuation of EK in a trade scenario, but of course that tends to be what all fans do about their own teams players. Also appreciate the mention of intelligent feedback. I try to be intelligent unless it's a total troll post or someone insults me lol. Likewise, I appreciate the intelligent response!