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Created by: Sidstick87
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 27, 2018
Published: Sep. 27, 2018
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Im a Pens fan but was only checking out ur cap Situation but im a huge fan of ur team and love Marner and Matthews.
BUT i just see no way of doing anything but trading Nylander and building around Matthews , Marner, and JT.
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1$1,250,000
2$950,000
2$950,000
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7$7,000,000
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Sep. 27, 2018 at 8:47 p.m.
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Well tbf you overpayed marner by 2M but you’d still be over cap
Sep. 27, 2018 at 8:48 p.m.
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Well tbf you overpayed marner by 2M but you’d still be over cap


The dude is gona put up 100 points this yr.... he is a beast .... thats what hes gona want
Sep. 27, 2018 at 8:49 p.m.
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Well tbf you overpayed marner by 2M but you’d still be over cap


lol, i called him a beast and just noticed ur name is beast mode
Sep. 27, 2018 at 8:54 p.m.
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The dude is gona put up 100 points this yr.... he is a beast .... thats what hes gona want


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lol, i called him a beast and just noticed ur name is beast mode


LOL. Also I think Marn will get 60-70 next to JT
Sep. 27, 2018 at 8:55 p.m.
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sign mathews to a 12M contract for max years.
Sign Nylander for a a bridge 6.75 M
Sign Marner to 8mill long-term
Wait till ur Free of Nathans hortans contract, and Marleau, Then sign Nylander down thr road for 9-10 Mill.
Good luck on defence, Pray Anderson doesnt get injured
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Sep. 27, 2018 at 8:58 p.m.
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Horribly inflated contracts are spackled all over this agm...

We will be at the cap ceiling next year... please do not underestimate the best cap staff in the nhl.... Pridham pretty much wrote the CBA.
Sep. 27, 2018 at 9:09 p.m.
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Quoting: SamBennet93
sign mathews to a 12M contract for max years.
Sign Nylander for a a bridge 6.75 M
Sign Marner to 8mill long-term
Wait till ur Free of Nathans hortans contract, and Marleau, Then sign Nylander down thr road for 9-10 Mill.
Good luck on defence, Pray Anderson doesnt get injured


I'm putting Marner at 8.5 at a minimum. That's what Dri got in Edmonton, I think Marner will get the same if not more given the fact cap will have gone up for 2 years.

You may not have options like you think on Nylander. The CBA is coming up. If the RFA age drops by 2 years, he's gone. On top of it, it's the cap next year that is really messed up. You can't field a roster with any kind of depth with no cap space. It's a very bad spot to be in.

Having 4-5 very highly paid guys isn't how you win cups. Yes you do need star talent. But you have to have depth that can play down the stretch. You have to be able to role 3 lines and have depth on the blue line.
Toronto is going to have issues fielding that. They may have the forwards covered for the most part, but the blue line is gonna be awful
Sep. 27, 2018 at 9:31 p.m.
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I'm putting Marner at 8.5 at a minimum. That's what Dri got in Edmonton, I think Marner will get the same if not more given the fact cap will have gone up for 2 years.

You may not have options like you think on Nylander. The CBA is coming up. If the RFA age drops by 2 years, he's gone. On top of it, it's the cap next year that is really messed up. You can't field a roster with any kind of depth with no cap space. It's a very bad spot to be in.

Having 4-5 very highly paid guys isn't how you win cups. Yes you do need star talent. But you have to have depth that can play down the stretch. You have to be able to role 3 lines and have depth on the blue line.
Toronto is going to have issues fielding that. They may have the forwards covered for the most part, but the blue line is gonna be awful


..... no to everything you just said besides marner at 8.5m that is of course a possibility but I will wait to see how he plays and when he will be signed.
Sep. 27, 2018 at 9:46 p.m.
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You guys just have it backwards, the big guys aren't the ones who are in danger of leaving. Johnsson for 3 million, he's gone. He'll get a 1 year 1 million deal tops, and then he could get an offer sheet for 3 million. The Leafs will have guys ready to jump up on ELC's to replace the depth. This is why you draft for talent, so you have a steady supply of cheap but talented players. This is why Hyman and Brown are signed for nice deals, because they want to be part of it and not price themselves out. The leafs can also get another Ennis next year. They won't be paying Borgman 2+ million. You overspent by a lot to fill holes, it may be a young team but it won't suck.
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Sep. 27, 2018 at 9:59 p.m.
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Kinda of a real dumb premise....cap hell. Is Matthews going to be the highest paid player in the league? Marner...top three RWer in the league, Nylander top 15 RWer in the league.

But let's say those players are worth of that money. Is it really that bad having three superstars....and that's what they be in they paid that much in there first RFA contracts. Then someone would have to be traded for lots of cheap young good assets. That is no cap hell at all, having too many good players.

And what a stupid argument about Horton's LTIR affecting the cap next year. Just a non factual red herring argument. I suppose most teams would have problems in their starting goalie got hurt. Maybe the Leafs would be better than most team since Mcillerney had a better GAA and save % than Andersen last year.
Sep. 27, 2018 at 10:18 p.m.
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It is going to be a tough crunch, but they can save money in many different areas. Par Lindholm, Johnsson, Borgman won't make the numbers up there. You can save probably 3 million on those 3 alone. Marner, Nylander, and Matthews will all likely take 500k less than what you are proposing. Thats 4.5million. Ohziganov, Sparks, same thing.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 12:08 a.m.
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..... no to everything you just said besides marner at 8.5m that is of course a possibility but I will wait to see how he plays and when he will be signed.

Best cap team in the NHL? best staff? Dont make sence when u are at the ceiling, good luck on Defence RIP
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:24 a.m.
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Best cap team in the NHL? best staff? Dont make sence when u are at the ceiling, good luck on Defence RIP


We have 13m in cap space so not really at the ceiling nor will we so we can pay PB’s this season. This is why Nathan Horton is staying on the roster this year. Otherwise we would have close to 19m in space. Next year it gets tight.

Yes the best cap staff in the NHL, this is well known. Leafs are used to operating at the cap limit... the only difference now is we actually have a team worth their money.

11th in goals against last year and a stronger defence this year. No more bozak and jvr doing nothing in their own end. Why would we need luck if we have a top 10 defensive unit?
Sep. 28, 2018 at 3:17 a.m.
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We have 13m in cap space so not really at the ceiling nor will we so we can pay PB’s this season. This is why Nathan Horton is staying on the roster this year. Otherwise we would have close to 19m in space. Next year it gets tight.

Yes the best cap staff in the NHL, this is well known. Leafs are used to operating at the cap limit... the only difference now is we actually have a team worth their money.

11th in goals against last year and a stronger defence this year. No more bozak and jvr doing nothing in their own end. Why would we need luck if we have a top 10 defensive unit?


5th last in shots against and 3rd last in chances against. Freddy STOLE you games. He won't do it as much as he did last season, if he gets injured, even for 2 weeks Toronto could find themselves slipping away from Tampa and being thrown into the Boston Florida dgo fight (I have a feeling only 3 atlantic teams make it). As for your D unit being top 10 GOD NO please do not look at goals against and get confused. Your goalie is top 10, fair. Your D is not
Sep. 28, 2018 at 6:35 a.m.
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We have 13m in cap space so not really at the ceiling nor will we so we can pay PB’s this season. This is why Nathan Horton is staying on the roster this year. Otherwise we would have close to 19m in space. Next year it gets tight.

Yes the best cap staff in the NHL, this is well known. Leafs are used to operating at the cap limit... the only difference now is we actually have a team worth their money.

11th in goals against last year and a stronger defence this year. No more bozak and jvr doing nothing in their own end. Why would we need luck if we have a top 10 defensive unit?


Yup can't wait to see that D core next year. Unable to move the puck out of their own end. The D men next year Dermott Carrick Holl....LOL good luck with that. Is there a single NHL level player of the 3? Still to be determined.

You won't be able to bring in anyone much better either with no cap space. It's like 4-5 million for a decent defenseman. Toronto doesn't have the cap space at all. Teams are gonna dump the puck in deep and force the AHL level defenseman you got to make dumb decisions with the puck. Just wait. Forwards will be playing back all game.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 6:37 a.m.
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5th last in shots against and 3rd last in chances against. Freddy STOLE you games. He won't do it as much as he did last season, if he gets injured, even for 2 weeks Toronto could find themselves slipping away from Tampa and being thrown into the Boston Florida dgo fight (I have a feeling only 3 atlantic teams make it). As for your D unit being top 10 GOD NO please do not look at goals against and get confused. Your goalie is top 10, fair. Your D is not


wait to see how bad it gets when Gardiner and Hainsey leave. I don't care how many forwards they have, they won't have legitimate top 4 defense men.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 9:00 a.m.
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Yup can't wait to see that D core next year. Unable to move the puck out of their own end. The D men next year Dermott Carrick Holl....LOL good luck with that. Is there a single NHL level player of the 3? Still to be determined.

You won't be able to bring in anyone much better either with no cap space. It's like 4-5 million for a decent defenseman. Toronto doesn't have the cap space at all. Teams are gonna dump the puck in deep and force the AHL level defenseman you got to make dumb decisions with the puck. Just wait. Forwards will be playing back all game.


Won’t be carrick and Holl, ozhiganov liligren dermott or Rosen... mclhinney and Andersen must have both stole games than? I would say more likely facing a lot of perimeter shots from teams trying to get back into games.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 10:12 a.m.
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I'm putting Marner at 8.5 at a minimum. That's what Dri got in Edmonton, I think Marner will get the same if not more given the fact cap will have gone up for 2 years.

You may not have options like you think on Nylander. The CBA is coming up. If the RFA age drops by 2 years, he's gone. On top of it, it's the cap next year that is really messed up. You can't field a roster with any kind of depth with no cap space. It's a very bad spot to be in.

Having 4-5 very highly paid guys isn't how you win cups. Yes you do need star talent. But you have to have depth that can play down the stretch. You have to be able to role 3 lines and have depth on the blue line.
Toronto is going to have issues fielding that. They may have the forwards covered for the most part, but the blue line is gonna be awful


I agree, Marner is going to be a top player and maybe get around 90 points. Hes gona want paid like it.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 12:01 p.m.
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Won’t be carrick and Holl, ozhiganov liligren dermott or Rosen... mclhinney and Andersen must have both stole games than? I would say more likely facing a lot of perimeter shots from teams trying to get back into games.


that's a lot of faith in a bunch of nothing.
This team has way too much cap space on it's forwards and it's going to bite them. You will find out when the puck is always dumped in and the turn overs come. Not having a quality blue line doesn't work. You need people who can both retrieve and move the puck. Ozhiganov been playing in the KHL, you never know what you get from there. Sometimes it's good, others ehhhh good luck with that. Rosen 24 years old looking like an AHL level player. Lilj is a 19 year old rookie, god knows what you really get. And Dermont who is an undersized defenseman who spent most of his time in the AHL.
I'm sorry, that really isn't that great and anyone being honest about it knows that. 40% of the cap on 5 forwards. That's where toronto is going. It's not gonna work. You have to have decent blue line players. You can't win if you don't. Especially when injuries hit.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 12:09 p.m.
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that's a lot of faith in a bunch of nothing.
This team has way too much cap space on it's forwards and it's going to bite them. You will find out when the puck is always dumped in and the turn overs come. Not having a quality blue line doesn't work. You need people who can both retrieve and move the puck. Ozhiganov been playing in the KHL, you never know what you get from there. Sometimes it's good, others ehhhh good luck with that. Rosen 24 years old looking like an AHL level player. Lilj is a 19 year old rookie, god knows what you really get. And Dermont who is an undersized defenseman who spent most of his time in the AHL.
I'm sorry, that really isn't that great and anyone being honest about it knows that. 40% of the cap on 5 forwards. That's where toronto is going. It's not gonna work. You have to have decent blue line players. You can't win if you don't. Especially when injuries hit.


Have you seen any preseason? Certainly looking like we have some young guys ready to go ozhiganov and Rosen looking very good. These great defencemen don’t fall out of trees... they are developed and tested. It may not pan out and we may have to upgrade at D. But to not even give them a chance? That’s just dumb.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 12:15 p.m.
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Have you seen any preseason? Certainly looking like we have some young guys ready to go ozhiganov and Rosen looking very good. These great defencemen don’t fall out of trees... they are developed and tested. It may not pan out and we may have to upgrade at D. But to not even give them a chance? That’s just dumb.


You've also played Ottawa twice,who my dead nan could score on, and some of the bottom feeding teams, Toronto haven't played a Tampa, a Nashville, a Washington yet as far as I'm aware, please let me know if I'm wrong, but when you play against bottom feeder clubs like these, if you ain't beating them you don't need to be in the NHL
Sep. 28, 2018 at 1:35 p.m.
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You've also played Ottawa twice,who my dead nan could score on, and some of the bottom feeding teams, Toronto haven't played a Tampa, a Nashville, a Washington yet as far as I'm aware, please let me know if I'm wrong, but when you play against bottom feeder clubs like these, if you ain't beating them you don't need to be in the NHL


It’s just pre season, typically the teams with better prospects are the ones winning. We put out nothing but prospects against Montreal and they whooped us. It’s those types of games where you can really see who is working and who needs to be sent down.
Sep. 28, 2018 at 1:39 p.m.
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Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:18 p.m.
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It’s just pre season, typically the teams with better prospects are the ones winning. We put out nothing but prospects against Montreal and they whooped us. It’s those types of games where you can really see who is working and who needs to be sent down.


Still... Canes don't have a solid prospect farm, there are depth issues, but Carolina went against Tampa and Nashville's A team and whooped them. Michal Cajkovsky scored against Tampa ffs... I didn't even know who he was! It's the team that works harder and the team that plays Carey Price in net
Sep. 28, 2018 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: SamBennet93
sign mathews to a 12M contract for max years.
Sign Nylander for a a bridge 6.75 M
Sign Marner to 8mill long-term
Wait till ur Free of Nathans hortans contract, and Marleau, Then sign Nylander down thr road for 9-10 Mill.
Good luck on defence, Pray Anderson doesnt get injured


So Calgary just went through a hold out with Johnny hockey and the same agent Lewis Gross. Johnny holds out and was signed to a 6 year 6.75m contract with much better numbers than nylander. could you please exaon how that equates to nylander getting a 6.75m bridge?
 
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