you've traded out a important part of your lineup and you're still only $200,000 under the cap.. thats still a huge issue lol.

You're carrying 20 players when rosters are 23-man

why would arizona give up so much for a 38 year old when they're in retool mood. and why would marleau waive his nmc ntc for arizona??? and u cant buy him out either. ur stuck with him. and if 7mill was the asking price for nylander, he would already be signed. im pretty sure its around the 7.2 area for nylander

This is with the 2018-19 cap, it’ll go up more than enough to add 3 guys on minimum contracts

How do you know Arizona won’t be in win mode 2 years from now? They’re up and coming.

so ur saying that they're in win now mode and they give away 2 picks and a bunch of cap space for a 40 year old?? why would they do that? u could get someone younger and better?! and why would marleau waive his nmc ntc to go to arizona. he has settled in toronto. he's gonna retire here

This shouldn't be an issue with Marleau:
-Ozhiganov does not get the pay of Zaitzev because we have already seen that mistake, and Dubas ain't stupid
-that frees about 3 million. That, plus the 3 million that will be added to the cap, means Marleau is good. Except for one minor issue, which is that when you signed these guys, you somehow forgot how to cont and forgot that you might wanna have a full roster. Have fun figuring that out! That 4th line sucks BTW, but if you add Marleau and drop Kappy down the lineup it's slightly better.

Also, Gardiner (50 points) for Ozhiganov (7th dman this year).... sounds about right?

You really don’t know how to read do you? I said earlier that they will have no problem signing 3 guys with the cap going up, but since I’m usuing the 2018-19 cap I can’t put 3 more guys in the roster.

apparently you can't read because I literally just said that money would have to be used to keep Marleau, who won't waive his NTC....

The Marleau trade issues have been well discussed. But how about underpaying all 3 kids by at least a million each?

Didn’t know you were inside of Marelaus brain, thanks for letting me know

Not sure in what world Matthews gets 10M, and Nylander gets 8M, but it’s definitely not this one

You're assuming that each guy you signed takes the minimum you offer, I know the cap goes up next year but barely under the cap still means cap trouble

Also dreger says Mathews will get like 12.5 mill at least, I disagree I think he'll hold out like nylander, get an offer sheet for more and then toronto matches

Those contracts are not the minimum. They’re actually close to the max I think they get.

You don't have to be inside his brain to understand that a 38 YO with one year left on his contract is not going to waive his NTC to go play in Arizona. Also worth mentioning is the fact that if he is traded team morale goes WAYYYY down and problems resigning players could occur. I see why you would move him, and the deal isn't bad. It just won't happen because that's not what players in his situation would do.

Unfortunately that's no longer the case and teams dole out cap percentages... technically he could get upto 16.4 mill next year if the cap goes upto 82 mill

exactly. thats why when folks say nylander should sign a pastarnak deal at 6.6 they're mistaken. players sign according to the cap percentage. tahts why nylander should sign, if according to pastas precentage, at 7.2mill a year. thats why matthews will sign for 12.5 or even more as well. same for marner. considering marner is playing with tavares, that could really inflate his point totals. wouldbt be surprised if his ask is around the draisaitl number at 8.5

I would tend to agree that they should get more, and that they will ask for more, but I think that the three of them together would take pay cuts in order to keep this leafs team together. So as much as based on percentages and whatnot they should get more, its possible that they don't. I think Matthews gets 11.5 or so, Nylander 7.2, and Marner around 8.25

Kappy gets a bit more money Ozhiganov gets way less marleau.....FULL NMC!!!!! Besides he’s awesome and immortal!

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Horton goes on ltir and roster issue (other than the ones I mentioned above).

Oz is in the lineup this year. Don’t think he is the 7th guy.

Nylander isn’t getting 7.2m and I’m certain he hasn’t been offered 7m or he would be signed already. Seems to me Dubas is trying to keep him under 6.5m. This whole drama stirred up about Nylander holding out for 8m is ridiculous. He has zero leverage in negotiations.

Question is, why on earth would either Marner or Nylander get that kind of money?

Nylander is just like Ehlers, so 7 @ 6 is reasonable, however that does not factor in the cap increase. People use the Pasternak deal AS the cap increase for his comparable, not as the starting point. Pasta is by far better than Nylander, so he will get about 6.25-6.66 (6.5 if you will) on a 6 year deal (one less to also factor in the increase, getting him to ufa a year earlier). If Nylander continues to hold out, expect that number to go down, as the Leafs will prove he is a want, and not a need. I expect that should this holdout continue, Dubas will offer a max of 6.25, and the likely contract will go down to 5 years at 6 should he decline that.

On to Marner, He is not that much better than Nylander. He is better, no doubt, and his role is different for sure, but statistically, not much better. If he were to sign today, he would get about 500k more (give or take) than Nylander, due to his role being more important. Most cap projections for him come from the fact that he is expected to explode with JT this year inflating his price, but people seem to think that when Toronto fans/spectators say he will get between 7-7.75 (7.5 if you will) that does not include the big season, and that this is the base he would get today. It is possible he explodes more than that, but in all likelihood what we end up with will look like this:

Nylander: 6@6.25-6.5
Marner: 6@Nylander's + 1-1.5 million
Matthews: 8@11 (JT acts as a hard cap and a hard floor for Matthews, so expect the same contract on an 8 year deal).

An interesting option with Matthews (that I doubt will ever happen) would be to give him 6 years at 9 million, freeing up some more space, but leading to a larger pay day down the road, so the 8 year deal is likely better. Plus I doubt Matthews even considers anything shorter than 8 years, as that would lower his hit below the JT hit.

I just wanted to cut this part of the answer to you as well.

Nylander is just like Ehlers, so 7 @ 6 is reasonable, however that does not factor in the cap increase. People use the Pasternak deal AS the cap increase for his comparable, not as the starting point. Pasta is by far better than Nylander, so he will get about 6.25-6.66 (6.5 if you will) on a 6 year deal (one less to also factor in the increase, getting him to ufa a year earlier). If Nylander continues to hold out, expect that number to go down, as the Leafs will prove he is a want, and not a need. I expect that should this holdout continue, Dubas will offer a max of 6.25, and the likely contract will go down to 5 years at 6 should he decline that.

OK, folks don't have to Marleau's brain to know he isn't waiving his NMC when 2019/20 will likely be his his last chance to win a Cup. And his chance to win is with the Leafs not Arizona.
If nothing else you have proven the Leafs do have cap issues.

Great D bud

Top 30 for sure, in some years

Yeah, it's not Marleau's fault

It's GM Dumbass