What do you EDM fans want for Larsson in 2019 preseason

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Created by: SammyT_51

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 6, 2018

Published: Dec. 6, 2018

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Brown, Zaitsev and 2nd (either in 2019 or 2020, it is a draft trade) is my idea. And they are NOT cap throw-ins.. geez. Zaitsev would fit well with Klefbom, getting help of a better puck mover (Larsson is very good puck mover as well but I see Zaitsev as a bit better one) and Brown would be perfect winger for McDavid and would likely score between 25-30. Would you do it?

Also instead of hating on deal, add serious counteroffer.

Also yes I decided to keep Hainsey for 1 more year. He is very good defensive security and him with Liljegren would form a nice little pairing to help Liljegren with translation into NHL.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Sparks, Garret	2	$850,000
Ozhiganov, Igor	2	$1,125,000
Borgman, Andreas	1	$800,000
Rosén, Calle	1	$800,000
Kapanen, Kasperi	3	$3,333,333
Marner, Mitchell	8	$9,000,000
Klimchuk, Morgan	2	$700,000
Carcone, Michael	2	$700,000
Moore, Trevor	2	$800,000
Johnsson, Andreas	2	$1,750,000
Matthews, Auston	8	$12,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Lindholm, Pär		1	$1,000,000
Hainsey, Ron		1	$1,000,000

Trades

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,000,000	$76,333,475	$0	$470,000	$5,666,525

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kapanen, Kasperi $3,333,333$3,333,333 RW UFA - 3	Matthews, Auston $12,000,000$12,000,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $9,000,000$9,000,000 RW UFA - 6
Marleau, Patrick $700,000$700,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Johnsson, Andreas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Grundström, Carl $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Lindholm, Pär $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Moore, Trevor $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Larsson, Adam $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ozhiganov, Igor $1,125,000$1,125,000 RD UFA
Hainsey, Ron $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3	Sparks, Garret $850,000$850,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1
Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marleau, P.		Tavares, J.		Matthews, A.
	Marner, M.		Rielly, M.

Power Play 2
Grundström, C.		Kadri, N.		Johnsson, A.
	Nylander, W.		Liljegren, T.

Penalty Kill 1
	Hyman, Z.	Kapanen, K.
	Hainsey, R.	Larsson, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Lindholm, P.	Moore, T.
	Dermott, T.	Ozhiganov, I.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:48 a.m.

Lenny7

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Not going to argue whether Zaitsev or Brown are cap dump/throw ins, but this is the old "quantity over quality" story. Zaitsev isn't bad, and neither is Brown, but both of those guys are the type of players that the Oilers can get as UFA's this summer, and can likely get cheaper/better terms on.

Chia already lost one Larsson trade, I can't imagine he wants to do it again.

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Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:51 a.m.

EthanBearForVezina

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As an Oilers fan, I’d gladly accept this trade.

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Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:53 a.m.

SammyT_51

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Quoting: Lenny7

And I take that argument, it makes sense. I think Brown is on a very good deal if he is great with McDavid and can be longerterm solution as well. I just wanted counteroffers.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:55 a.m.

Shibbal18

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Swap out Zaitsev for something cheaper then I would say this is a good deal. Edmontons cap situation is dire, they can't afford to take back 3 mill.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:55 a.m.

SammyT_51

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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina

As an Oilers fan, I’d gladly accept this trade.

GREAT!!

Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:56 a.m.

mhockey91

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So chirelli turned Taylor hall into a bottom 6 winger; a bottom pairing D, and a 2nd?
Chirelli won’t Trade larsson, and even if he did, that package isn’t enough

Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:57 a.m.

Lenny7

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Quoting: SammyT_51

And I take that argument, it makes sense. I think Brown is on a very good deal if he is great with McDavid and can be longerterm solution as well. I just wanted counteroffers.

For sure. I mean, the value could well be there. What about Kap+something?

Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:57 a.m.

SammyT_51

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Swap out Zaitsev for something cheaper then I would say this is a good deal. Edmonton cap situation is dire, they can't afford to take back 3 mill.

They would take 2.5 back but still they actually for 2019/20 season they can.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:57 a.m.

toque

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Quoting: Lenny7

I agree with this thinking too. Edmonton would be more interested in a player like Johnsson, a quick winger who can play up and down the lineup. The issue is that he's a 'key' player for Toronto in that he will be on a cheaper contract which will help them next year.

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Dec. 6, 2018 at 11:59 a.m.

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Lenny7

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Quoting: RedDevils24

Yeah, that's why I figured maybe Kapanen...IMO he's in line for a Reinhart-type bridge deal ($3.something/2-3 years).

Dec. 6, 2018 at 12:08 p.m.

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EthanBearForVezina

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Connor Brown would work on McDavids wing but Kapanen works too.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 12:17 p.m.

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SammyT_51

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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina

Connor Brown would work on McDavids wing but Kapanen works too.

Kapanen has the speed to play with McDavid and Brown the high level of physicality and scoring to be McDavids perfect winger.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 12:21 p.m.

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sebski

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if the leafs wanted larsson the starting point is kapanen. after that probably throw in a second and you have a deal. the oilers best RW rn is caggula or puljijarvi. kapanen would slide in nice with mcdavid (fastest duo in the league) and could be a 30+ goal scorer with mcdavid. I dont think they bite on a package they want a good player back themselves and zaitsev and brown just arnt good enough imo for them to genuinly believe the trade would benefit their team.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 12:23 p.m.

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MG1986

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I don't see any way Edmonton's GM parts with Larsson for anything other than a young top-6 or a package of a high draft pick and top prospect. I don't think Larsson gets dealt until a new GM steps in, which I would imagine to be the case if the Oilers miss the playoffs again this spring.

Dec. 6, 2018 at 12:29 p.m.

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Chopper02

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Quoting: Lenny7

Question is, which trade is worse: Larsson for Hall straight up, or Erat and Latte for Forsberg?

Dec. 6, 2018 at 12:33 p.m.

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LobbysOilers

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Would need money retained on zaitsev and a better winger coming back (think Johnsson)

Dec. 6, 2018 at 12:35 p.m.

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LobbysOilers

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Quoting: Chopper02

Question is, which trade is worse: Larsson for Hall straight up, or Erat and Latte for Forsberg?

Pretty clearly erat because Washington has nothing to show for that trade and Edmonton has a top 4 defenseman

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Dec. 7, 2018 at 1:00 p.m.

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Lenny7

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Quoting: Chopper02

Question is, which trade is worse: Larsson for Hall straight up, or Erat and Latte for Forsberg?

Hahaha, I think you know the answer to this...

Though at least Forsberg hadn't done anything yet when he was traded, whereas Hall had...I suppose there's an argument for both sides. But yeah, I wonder if George MacPhee got asked about that before Vegas hired him?

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