Term is the main issue for me. If STL could get Bob for 3 or 4 years, I wouldn't be afraid to give a huge AAV. The last thing I want is 10.5 x 7 though. Doesn't allow for a worthwhile backup and goalies are way too unpredictable.

I guess I'd put my cut-off at something like 3 yrs x 10m AAV or 4 yrs x 9m AAV if he was interested in coming to play in STL.

I'd be very tempted if I was Doug Armstrong to overpay a bit. Maybe 5yrs close to $10m. I think I'd want to see how my team performs with a true #1. If they're still not a legit playoff team then there's lots of pieces that will be easy to trade for futures and I don't think having that money locked into a goalie will impede a rebuild other than winning a few extra games that prevent better draft picks.

But I'd want to know before parting ways with a guy like Pietrangelo.

Think he's probably played his way out of a Price-like contract at this point. I do like the idea of a 3 or 4 x 9.5-10 ish deal for teams like St. Louis/Calgary/Carolina, but would imagine that Vancouver will hold pat with the very-mediocre Markstrom holding the crease for Demko and Dipietro to come up over the next couple of years.

Would also not give him a NMC. Worst case if you have to give him 4-5 years, you can pay Seattle to take him at the expansion draft in a few years.

I tend to agree with you....but started looking at how many teams might be in the running. I didn't think there'd be more than a couple teams seriously going after him. I guess it comes down to...does any team need him desperately enough to drive his price up?

Most GM's probably have a reasonable cut-off point...I question if Chiarelli feels he needs this to try and save his job tho.

I don't think he gets 10 honestly I don't think the goalie market is there. Maybe calgary when goaltending kills them in the playoffs or st Louis but not for 10

Goalie is the one position where there "lots" of UFAs options this season. I don't think Bob is worth to paid so much at all. You could argue Howard and Lehner have had better season this season.

I’m certainly not trying to advocate for Bob...just looking to see what fan bases in cities like St. Louis, Edmonton, Calgary or Carolina might be willing to offer him to see how realistic his supposed asking price is.

But, IMO, to say Howard/Lehner are cheaper and better options is like saying Paul Stastny was a better option than Tavares.

You can scratch Calgary off the list of possibilities - no way we could make that fit

If the Oilers miss the playoffs and Chiarelli still has a job, you've gotta think that he has some really good blackmail material on the Oilers ownership group.

Bob has had off years before. 2015-16 for example.

I wouldn't be too worried about bob bouncing back. He has a lot of stat issues from rough nights. Where in any other situation the goalie would have been pulled but CBJ has left him in net.
There are some issues there both ways. I think it shows. You don't leave your goalie in to get 8 goals scored against him. Don't think Bob doesn't notices that kind of F-erey
That's why Bob gets suspended for a game, because would you still want to be playing there.
There is a lot going on behind the scene here. Bob's ability as a goal tender would be the least of my concerns.
He'll get 10.

If Carolina can find a way to get rid of Darling, I could see them paying him $10. Does anyone really have the long term cap space to offer him $10 without shooting themselves in the foot? I would think that Gibson's contract somewhat reset the goalie market (though it bought out an RFA year which would have cheapened the deal a bit).

It's the same problem with all vets. It's not just Bob.
You have a 28 year old jt that signs a 7 year deal paying him 11 million. Do you want to be paying him 11 million at 35, no.

Lets not act like this is simply a problem with Bob. It's a league wide systemic issue for teams hell bent on making the UFA age 27.
So you get stuck in the same crap no matter what good player you are looking at. Having to sign them till their mid to late 30s.

It's the system they wanted instead of letting players hit FA earlier.
I don't fault players one bit for wanting their pay day after being signed on the cheap because of a system that works against them. And I don't fee bad for the owners having to pay up for a good player this way when they went out of their way to screw a player out of money in their prime years.

Florida and Carolina, Anaheim maybe? Not sure how Bob feels about the west coast. He wants warm weather. Its a problem for the Jackets that the two top candidates are in the Metro. We don’t want to help our division rivals and have to play against a vengeful Bob.

With Luongo in Florida and Gibson in Anaheim I’m not sure either would bid on Bob. Although i suppose it’s possible that a team that already has a #1 could still sign him and trade their current starter to on of the other teams

Sorry, I'm not sure where we got into the owner vs player part here...

My point isn't that someone like Bob shouldn't be paid, it's more "does a team want to spend 15%ish of the cap on a goalie long term, especially one coming off of a down season".

I absolutely think that players should be paid appropriately, I just don't see a lot of teams with the cap space to get in a bidding war over him.

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You know Luongo is 39 years old right?

Ummm. Yes.

Then you can see why Bob would be an attractive option for Florida. Anaheim heh...maybe not. Gibson's play is holding strong right now, wasn't certain they bet the franchise long-term with him. Bob is known to have interest playing in Florida from inside sources in Columbus so he may take a slight discount to play there. By discount I mean 9 mill range instead of 10. I still think he's asking too much and his real value at this point in his career is 7.5 to 8.5 mill range.

Agreed. That's why I acknowledged that Florida might not be in on him as desperately as some other teams since they have Luongo and Reimer already locked up for the next few seasons...but possible they could look to trade one or both and go after Bob since he's the better option now and in the future. But unless he retires (a legit possibility)..I don't think they'll be the team offering him top dollar...or going after him at all