Ristolainen for Subban what would Buffalo need to add

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Created by: gretzkyghosts

Team: 2019-20 Nashville Predators

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 4, 2019

Published: Jun. 4, 2019

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Ristolainen, Rasmus

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Nashville dumps $9,600,000 salary.

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20	$83,000,000	$61,291,666	$0	$850,000	$21,708,334

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Forsberg, Filip $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW UFA - 3	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 6	Smith, Craig $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW UFA - 1
Järnkrok, Calle $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C, LW UFA - 3		Arvidsson, Viktor $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Salomäki, Miikka $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Granlund, Mikael $5,750,000$5,750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Bonino, Nick $4,100,000$4,100,000 C, LW UFA - 2
	Gaudreau, Frédérick $666,666$666,666 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Josi, Roman $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1		Rinne, Pekka $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Ekholm, Mattias $3,750,000$3,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 8	Saros, Juuse $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 2
Hamhuis, Dan $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD UFA - 1	Fabbro, Dante $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2
Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD UFA - 3	Weber, Yannick $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1
	Irwin, Matt $675,000$675,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Jun. 4, 2019 at 11:40 a.m.

MelonVK

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"Nashville dumps $9,600,000 salary."

Yeah but they also trade a really good defenseman for a really bad one

Jun. 4, 2019 at 11:41 a.m.

Pullero

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I have made a post on this and I had Subban and Turris for Ristolainen and Sheary

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Jun. 4, 2019 at 11:42 a.m.

Pullero

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Quoting: MelonVK

"Nashville dumps $9,600,000 salary."

Yeah but they also trade a really good defenseman for a really bad one

Yeah but they are also trading a bad c with a 6mil cap hit

Jun. 4, 2019 at 11:49 a.m.

MelonVK

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Quoting: Pullero

Yeah but they are also trading a bad c with a 6mil cap hit

And getting a worse D with a 5.4 mil cap hit

Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:05 p.m.

melloni17

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Quoting: MelonVK

And getting a worse D with a 5.4 mil cap hit

Risto isnt as bad as his numbers look. He has been on historically bad teams. Put in the right situation I think he will thrive. That being said, I think the st.louis pick might get it done here

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Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:11 p.m.

boyd1212

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Subban and a "won't be that bad again, perennial 20+ goal scorer" Turris for Risto? Better throw in Reinhart.

Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:15 p.m.

gretzkyghosts

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I really like Subban but Ristolainen does not play for a playoff team. Let's Ristolainen and Subban last year Ristolainen first;
pts/60 1.3-1.3
hit/60 7.3-2.4
blk/60 3.8-3.2
OZS% 46-54
So last year, scoring was the same, Ristolainen hit more, blocked more shots and had more Defensive Zone starts. Plus NSH had 14 more wins and 14 more goals.
I am not trying to make a point that Ristolainen for Subban is close to fair, but adding something (maybe Sheary) and taking on an additional cap hit may be a good move for NSH.

Quoting: MelonVK

"Nashville dumps $9,600,000 salary."

Yeah but they also trade a really good defenseman for a really bad one

Quoting: Pullero

Yeah but they are also trading a bad c with a 6mil cap hit

Quoting: MelonVK

And getting a worse D with a 5.4 mil cap hit

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Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:26 p.m.

Chopper02

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Subban-Tolvanen for Ristolainen-Middlestadt-1st (STL or SJ)

Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:29 p.m.

MelonVK

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Quoting: gretzkyghosts

Not really. Subban played heavy defensive minutes and Nashville's powerplay was super bad, and their general scoring not great either. Ristolainen basically gets outscored every time he enters the ice except the power play. Subban has a history of pp-production as well.

Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:30 p.m.

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Quoting: Chopper02

Subban-Tolvanen for Ristolainen-Middlestadt-1st (STL or SJ)

Tolvanen is better that Middelstadt

Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:34 p.m.

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Quoting: MelonVK

Tolvanen is better that Middelstadt

Possibly. They aren't that far apart in terms of talent though, and Middlestadt has shown at times to be a top line talent. But that's why I also included the first round pick

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Jun. 4, 2019 at 12:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Chopper02

Possibly. They aren't that far apart in terms of talent though, and Middlestadt has shown at times to be a top line talent. But that's why I also included the first round pick

But that's not what Nashville is going for, is it?

Jun. 4, 2019 at 1:11 p.m.

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Quoting: MelonVK

But that's not what Nashville is going for, is it?

Middlestadt as a second line Center or LW with Duchene at the other position would be good if they can dump Turris's deal.

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Jun. 4, 2019 at 1:21 p.m.

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Riley816

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I don't think the Sabres want Subban or Turris..

Jun. 4, 2019 at 2:58 p.m.

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Quoting: Chopper02

Middlestadt as a second line Center or LW with Duchene at the other position would be good if they can dump Turris's deal.

If we (Nashville) get Duchene, I really wouldn't mind seeing Tolvanen get a shake at LW with Duchene and Granlund.

Jun. 4, 2019 at 4:21 p.m.

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Quoting: Pullero

Yeah but they are also trading a bad c with a 6mil cap hit

He was a 51 point center just last year and this year he broke his foot twice leading to his production and confidence falling. A bad c not quite. If he just was bad this year with no injuries than yea I would agree with you

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