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Toronto Kid goes Home

Created by: Dommait
Initial Creation Date: Nov 8, 2019
Published: Nov 8 at 11:06 am
Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Blais, Samuel2$1,500,000
Borgman, Andreas1$800,000
MacEachern, Mackenzie1$800,000
Mikkola, Niko1$800,000
Reinke, Mitch1$800,000
Pouliot, Derrick1$800,000
Poganski, Austin1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex7$9,000,000
Elliott, Brian1$800,000
Bouwmeester, Jay1$1,000,000
Trades
STL
  1. Nylander, William
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
  2. Husso, Ville [RFA Rights]
  3. Sanford, Zachary
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
STL
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Steen, Alexander
  2. Allen, Jake
  3. Kyrou, Jordan
  4. 2022 1st round pick (STL)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
CAR
2021
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
2022
STL
TOR
OTT
STL
STL
STL
STL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$82,219,865$0$637,500$780,135
Left WingCenterRight Wing
STL
Schwartz, Jaden
$5,350,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Schenn, Brayden
$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 8
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
STL
Thomas, Robert
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
$7,500,000
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 4
STL
Perron, David
$4,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Bozak, Tyler
$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Kostin, Klim
$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
STL
Barbashev, Ivan
$1,475,000
C
RFA - 1
STL
Sundqvist, Oskar
$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
STL
Blais, Samuel
$1,500,000
RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
STL
Gunnarsson, Carl
$1,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Pietrangelo, Alex
$9,000,000
RD
UFA
STL
Binnington, Jordan
$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
STL
Bouwmeester, Jay
$1,000,000
LD
UFA
STL
Parayko, Colton
$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Elliott, Brian
$800,000
G
UFA
STL
Bortuzzo, Robert
$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 2
STL
Faulk, Justin
$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
STL
MacEachern, Mackenzie
$800,000
LW, RW
RFA
STL
Reinke, Mitch
$800,000
RD
RFA

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Nov 8 at 11:07
#1
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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LOL
Nov 8 at 11:08
#2
Biased Opinion
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Quoting: SammyT_51
LOL


Good on you for showing mercy...
Nov 8 at 11:08
#3
Discord COL's GM
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Blues pass on that. Dunn>Nylander for us. He is our one good LHD so it's gonna be a hard pass for a guy who is overrated. Also Steen has done well, Allen is the best backup we can get in the League neither of them need to go especially when we aren't investing one of our best prospects in Kyrou in that deal.
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Nov 8 at 11:10
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LongtimeLeafsufferer
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I don't mind the Nylander so much as some other Leaf fans, but it depends on the the cost of signing Dunn. Sorry no way Steen waives for Ottawa
Nov 8 at 11:25
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get off my lawn...
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And here I thought you were sending kyrou....
Nov 8 at 11:37
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Sam
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Quoting: SammyT_51
LOL


Dunn’s pretty freaking good dude. His xgf/60 was behind only Karlsson and Hamilton last year and he had more goals and points than Nylander (obviously because he played more games.)
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Nov 8 at 11:37
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exo2769
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Dunn turned 23 like a week ago and has been a consistent 2-way player for years already. STL wouldn't trade Dunn for Nylander straight up.
Nov 8 at 11:57
#8
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Quoting: exo2769
Dunn turned 23 like a week ago and has been a consistent 2-way player for years already. STL wouldn't trade Dunn for Nylander straight up.


yes they would. Also Dunn is not two way at all, Pietrangelo is two way, Dunn is not good defensively without the puck.

the trade would be more like Dunn and Kyrou for Nylander.

But in saying all of that the Blues will probably look at Nylanders cap hit and would rather keep Dunn and see how Kyrou turns out hoping he is a similar player to Nylander for cheaper.

And Steen will not waive for Ottawa.
Nov 8 at 12:00
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Blues pass on that. Dunn>Nylander for us. He is our one good LHD so it's gonna be a hard pass for a guy who is overrated. Also Steen has done well, Allen is the best backup we can get in the League neither of them need to go especially when we aren't investing one of our best prospects in Kyrou in that deal.


Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Blues pass on that. Dunn>Nylander for us. He is our one good LHD so it's gonna be a hard pass for a guy who is overrated. Also Steen has done well, Allen is the best backup we can get in the League neither of them need to go especially when we aren't investing one of our best prospects in Kyrou in that deal.


Allen for sure needs to go to clear cap, but not until the off season.
Nov 8 at 12:31
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Quoting: LGBstl
Allen for sure needs to go to clear cap, but not until the off season.


yeaah, but not interested in giving a first and kyrou for it. With all do respect f that.
Nov 8 at 12:38
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Let'sGoBlues | WPGv4
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That OTT trade is a bad idea. The last year of Allen's deal should be trade-able and Steen can be bought out if we really need to pinch the cap space. Not gonna lose a 1st and our best prospect to manage cap when there are a few better ways to do it.

I don't think the Blues are in a position to trade Dunn but Nylander would be a good addition if Toronto wants to move him. It would require some additional shuffling in STL given our depth at C/RW now and in the future.
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Nov 8 at 1:14
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
yeaah, but not interested in giving a first and kyrou for it. With all do respect f that.


me either that Ottawa trade will never happen.
Nov 8 at 8:40
#13
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Blues pass on that. Dunn>Nylander for us. He is our one good LHD so it's gonna be a hard pass for a guy who is overrated. Also Steen has done well, Allen is the best backup we can get in the League neither of them need to go especially when we aren't investing one of our best prospects in Kyrou in that deal.


While I agree Dunn is greater for the Blues he’s not that great. He’s good and still developing his game, but you acting like the deal is a travesty is odd here. Also, Allen the best backup we could get? I think Anders Nilsson could provide just as much value at a much lower price.
Nov 8 at 8:48
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Quoting: LGBstl
yes they would. Also Dunn is not two way at all, Pietrangelo is two way, Dunn is not good defensively without the puck.

the trade would be more like Dunn and Kyrou for Nylander.

But in saying all of that the Blues will probably look at Nylanders cap hit and would rather keep Dunn and see how Kyrou turns out hoping he is a similar player to Nylander for cheaper.

And Steen will not waive for Ottawa.


Dunn isn’t a true two-way but he’s not terrible defensively either. It also wouldn’t cost Dunn AND Kyrou. Mark Stone only received a good prospect and 2 seconds with an extension and he’s way better than Nylander.
Nov 11 at 10:15
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Quoting: Chopper02
Dunn isn’t a true two-way but he’s not terrible defensively either. It also wouldn’t cost Dunn AND Kyrou. Mark Stone only received a good prospect and 2 seconds with an extension and he’s way better than Nylander.


Well for 1 Ottawa is dumb and 2 that was a deadline move and Ottawa was clearly moving Stone and had to get the best offer they could. TOR does not HAVE to move Nylander and it would cost more, Blues have no leverage like Vegas did.
Nov 12 at 8:22
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Quoting: LGBstl
Well for 1 Ottawa is dumb and 2 that was a deadline move and Ottawa was clearly moving Stone and had to get the best offer they could. TOR does not HAVE to move Nylander and it would cost more, Blues have no leverage like Vegas did.


If Toronto wants to move salary like they've discussed, then the other teams also have leverage. Blues don't need Nylander either. So when neither team needs the other a middle ground is reached.
Nov 12 at 9:34
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Quoting: Chopper02
If Toronto wants to move salary like they've discussed, then the other teams also have leverage. Blues don't need Nylander either. So when neither team needs the other a middle ground is reached.


true so like I said before the Blues probably would not make the trade. But someone will offer TOR more than what Ottawa got for Stone. TOR is under the cap they can make it work with Nylander there is no leverage, sure moving him would clear space but again they dont HAVE to like Ottawa did, otherwise Stone was walking for nothing.

But I dont really think TOR wants Dunn maybe a Faulk and 2nd for Nylander is more likely.
Nov 12 at 11:33
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Quoting: LGBstl
true so like I said before the Blues probably would not make the trade. But someone will offer TOR more than what Ottawa got for Stone. TOR is under the cap they can make it work with Nylander there is no leverage, sure moving him would clear space but again they dont HAVE to like Ottawa did, otherwise Stone was walking for nothing.

But I dont really think TOR wants Dunn maybe a Faulk and 2nd for Nylander is more likely.


They definitely need RHD more. And honestly, I might make that trade if we can resign Petro
Nov 13 at 9:45
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Quoting: Chopper02
They definitely need RHD more. And honestly, I might make that trade if we can resign Petro


Yeah I would for sure.
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Nov 14 at 2:01
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Quoting: LGBstl
Well for 1 Ottawa is dumb and 2 that was a deadline move and Ottawa was clearly moving Stone and had to get the best offer they could. TOR does not HAVE to move Nylander and it would cost more, Blues have no leverage like Vegas did.


It really wasn’t about Vegas haven’t leverage, but Ottawa getting the best deal available for the departing veteran winger.
Nov 14 at 2:03
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Quoting: Hawksince71
It really wasn’t about Vegas haven’t leverage, but Ottawa getting the best deal available for the departing veteran winger.


right which is a form of leverage knowing he is leaving and Ottawa is desperate to move him.
Nov 14 at 2:20
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This would be a trade Toronto would easily make I think. Dunn would be the piece the Leafs would be interested in. I would pass on Husso & Sanford, and want Sundqvist and Fitzpatrick.

I don’t know how this would work for the Blues. They would not able to afford Nylander’s salary. Nylander does seem to be a player Berube would welcome into the fold.

I think if this was to happen for the Leafs, they would be a bubble team at the TDL, acquiring Dunn, and moving Muzzin. With five UFA’s on the leaf blueline there will be changes.
 
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