Price for DeSmith

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Created by: This_Guy33

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 26, 2019

Published: Nov. 26, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Would this be a good Carey Price for DeSmith? I know the pens wouldn't want to retain for 3 years, but DeSmith already has a buried 175k cap hit.

Trades

TOR

DeSmith, Casey ($225,000 retained)

PIT

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$81,397,143	$0	$70,000	$102,857

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $10,893,000$10,893,000 RW UFA - 6
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1	Petan, Nicolas $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,025,000$1,025,000 G UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Marincin, Martin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1		Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Marchment, Mason $767,500$767,500 ($132,500$132K) LW, RW UFA - 1
		Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Nov. 26, 2019 at 4:04 p.m.

mondo

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ew no, not for mikheyev

Nov. 26, 2019 at 4:17 p.m.

Dan10900

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DEAL!!!

Nov. 26, 2019 at 4:17 p.m.

Dan10900

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DEAL!!!

Nov. 26, 2019 at 4:21 p.m.

PenGoater99

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It'll take more than that

Nov. 26, 2019 at 4:34 p.m.

GenXHockey

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Quoting: PenGoater99

It'll take more than that

Sarcasm right? Lmao

No way the leafs give this up.

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 4:47 p.m.

PenGoater99

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Sarcasm right? Lmao

No way the leafs give this up.

DeSmith was extremely good last year (19th among all goalies in GSAA and among the top 20 only 5 goalies had less TOI than him) and is signed to a very team-friendly deal and there's retention on top of that. It'll take more than an expiring contract and an ECHL goalie

Nov. 26, 2019 at 4:54 p.m.

GenXHockey

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Expiring contract? It’s mikeyev... rookie season ...... rfa...tearing it up... ringing any bells? And before you start with the oh he’s playing with elite centres... he has been with spezza and kerfoot.

Desmith is playing in the ahl and costing you 175k... again... the leafs would never offer this.

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:03 p.m.

Trickster

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Wth is this???

Desmith value is pick and non-roster, tops.

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:06 p.m.

GenXHockey

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Quoting: Trickster

Wth is this???

Desmith value is pick and non-roster, tops.

Or if you ask @PenGoater99 it’s Mcdavid and a 1st...

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:16 p.m.

#10

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Quoting: Trickster

Wth is this???

Desmith value is pick and non-roster, tops.

Quoting: Jamiepo

Or if you ask @PenGoater99 it’s Mcdavid and a 1st...

I want some of what this guy is smoking!

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:17 p.m.

#11

Trickster

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Or if you ask @PenGoater99 it’s Mcdavid and a 1st...

Would you look at Copely???

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:22 p.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: Trickster

Would you look at Copely???

I would if Washington were in a spot to retain... they are not. Possibly if there were a third team involved to retain.

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:23 p.m.

#13

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Quoting: Trickster

Would you look at Copely???

Copley would be a good option too.

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:24 p.m.

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JordanFerreira99

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To be fair I don't think the value is too off. Mikheyev looks like a decent bottom 6 guy but we already have too many of those guys. Think GMJR values having that extra back up goalie then adding another depth piece. Pens decline.

Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:52 p.m.

#15

GenXHockey

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Quoting: JordanFerreira99

Mikheyev is certainly going to be a top 6 player in the nhl. Has all the skills grit and vision. Also plays a decent two way game.

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 5:54 p.m.

#16

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Quoting: PenGoater99

It'll take more than that

Quoting: JordanFerreira99

You can't be serious. Mikheyev is a tenacious two-way forward who has some respectable puck skills and can score. He's on pace for 46 points this season. If he was playing with Malkin, he'd be a 60-70 point guy. There are better backup goalies in the league making less than that whom the Leafs wouldn't give up Mikheyev for.

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Nov. 26, 2019 at 11:27 p.m.

#17

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Pens take that and run. Puhhhlleeeeaaasseeee offer this, Dubas lol

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Nov. 27, 2019 at 12:23 a.m.

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PenGoater99

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Or if you ask @PenGoater99 it’s Mcdavid and a 1st...

Apparently me not wanting to give up a quality goalie for a player that would provide no benefit to the Penguins and a scrub = asking for that.

God you're sensitive

Nov. 27, 2019 at 12:24 a.m.

#19

PenGoater99

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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

Mikheyev would provide no benefit for the Penguins. They already have too many forwards as it is right now

Nov. 27, 2019 at 12:25 a.m.

#20

PenGoater99

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Mikheyev is certainly going to be a top 6 player in the nhl. Has all the skills grit and vision. Also plays a decent two way game.

Mikheyev is 25, he's not going to get any better than the level he's at now

Nov. 27, 2019 at 12:26 a.m.

#21

PenGoater99

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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

Copley would be a good option too.

Copley f*cking stinks

-3.97 GSAA and -0.03 GSAx in 18/19

Nov. 27, 2019 at 12:30 a.m.

#22

GenXHockey

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Mikheyev is 25, he's not going to get any better than the level he's at now

He just adjusted his game from the khl and to North American living. He will do slightly better to the end of the year as he is now starting to get moved into the top 6 for injuries. Most likely plateau next season. In a top 6 role he’s a 60 point guy easily. With centres like Malkin and Crosby he would get much more.

I’m not sure you’ve seen much of him but he is actually really good. He can dangle shot and play hard and physical both ways.

It’s a very lob sided trade and most of the pens fans on here agree.

Nov. 27, 2019 at 12:38 a.m.

#23

PenGoater99

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Quoting: Jamiepo

I'm not doubting that he's good, but with the current logjam at forward and an impending cap crunch, it does not make any sense to trade for Mikheyev, and again at 25, he is very unlikely to get any better than maybe a 20-20 guy.

Just because Penguins fans say something doesn't mean it's true, especially not on this site

Nov. 27, 2019 at 1:14 a.m.

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Lol... he’s already that carrying his line. Imagine if you give him someone to play with.

Even if he is only ever a 20 goal scorer he’s worth more than an ahl goalie. I’m sure your gm knows how to move people out to make room for talent.

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