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Discussion on our Prospects

Created by: ForsbergForVezina
Initial Creation Date: Dec 4, 2019
Published: Dec 4, 2019 at 3:19 pm
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Team Explanation
In the trade with Anaheim, I’ve included who I think are the Islanders top 10 prospects. I really only follow the NHL, so this list is mainly based off reputation/standard numbers, so take it with a grain of salt.

I have two questions for Islanders fans:
1. Do you agree with this list? Anyone too high? Too low?

2. Who would you trade to get some NHL pieces who can help now? I’ll answer this question myself in the comments.

Note: I’m not including Bardreau or Ho-Sang, the former because he’s not really a prospect and the latter because he’s never going to play another game in the organization and has no trade value on his own.
Trades
NYI
  1. 2022 7th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Dobson, Noah
  2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  3. Sorokin, Ilya [Reserve List]
  4. Wilde, Bode
  5. Holmström, Simon
  6. Iskhakov, Ruslan [Reserve List]
  7. Bellows, Kieffer
  8. Koivula, Otto
  9. Durandeau, Arnaud
  10. Bolduc, Samuel [Reserve List]
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
Buried
  • Andrew Ladd: $4,425,000 ($5,500,000)
  • Thomas Hickey: $1,425,000 ($2,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2021
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2022
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
ANA
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$75,517,499$0$715,000$5,982,501
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYI
Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 7
NYI
Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
NYI
Eberle, Jordan
$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
NYI
Martin, Matt
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
$3,350,000
C
UFA - 2
NYI
Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
$2,100,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Brassard, Derick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 1
NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
NYI
Johnston, Ross
$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYI
Komarov, Leo
$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Carpenter, Bobo
$792,500
LW, C
RFA - 2
NYI
Kühnhackl, Tom
$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Dal Colle, Michael
$700,000
LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYI
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
NYI
Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
NYI
Pelech, Adam
$1,600,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYI
Pulock, Ryan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYI
Greiss, Thomas
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Vande Sompel, Mitch
$728,333
D
RFA - 1
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
NYI
Toews, Devon
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:23
#1
Canes Baby
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Ive heard so many good things about Sorokin im suprised hes not1st
Dec 4, 2019 at 3:25
#2
Isles777
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Koivula and durandeau over bellows

Sebastian aho should be in there.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:26
#3
Lenny7
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From what I’ve read here, Sorokin and Dobson are your untouchables.

List seems reasonably accurate though.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:27
#4
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As for trades: I wouldn’t be upset with moving Aho or Bellows. Aho had a great year in the AHL last year and is off to a decent start this year, while Bellows has upside but hasn’t been able to put it together in the AHL yet. Maybe a change of scenery is needed for him.

Otherwise, I’ve suggested using Wilde as part of a Taylor Hall trade, but that’s about the only available trade target I’d move him for.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:29
#5
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Quoting: Isles777
Koivula and durandeau over bellows

Sebastian aho should be in there.


Yes, I meant to have in there but must’ve forgotten, thank you.

He’d be between Ishakov and Bellows perhaps
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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:32
#6
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Quoting: jslongo
Ive heard so many good things about Sorokin im suprised hes not1st


He’s our goalie of the future, no doubt, but you never really know how KHL guys are gonna work out until they’re here. Dobson and Wahlstrom are potentially both top line players and Dobson especially has looked excellent in his limited playing time.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:35
#7
First NY Then LA
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I think you can put the top 3 in any order and consider them untouchable. Then Holmstrom and Wilde should only be traded for a prime acquisition. Everyone else, including Aho, is expendable.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:39
#8
Isles777
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think you can put the top 3 in any order and consider them untouchable. Then Holmstrom and Wilde should only be traded for a prime acquisition. Everyone else, including Aho, is expendable.


Aho is in the same position toews was for a long time - he deserves to be playing in the NHL.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 4:02
#9
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Quoting: jslongo
Ive heard so many good things about Sorokin im suprised hes not1st


Goalies are really hard to predict, as an Isles fan we hope he is everything he is projected he could be. But, he still hasn't played in NA so who knows, he may end up being average.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 4:03
#10
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Quoting: Lenny7
From what I’ve read here, Sorokin and Dobson are your untouchables.

List seems reasonably accurate though.


I would add Koivula as untouchable as well, not that he is an A level prospect but only C prospect right now.
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Dec 4, 2019 at 4:08
#11
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I feel like Wahlstrom is overrated
Dec 4, 2019 at 4:53
#12
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Quoting: Isles777
Aho is in the same position toews was for a long time - he deserves to be playing in the NHL.


Yes, but he's expendable. With Pelech and Toews on that side, who plays #3 isn't really important if Aho can be part of a package with a little more punch.
Dec 4, 2019 at 6:56
#13
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Quoting: Bananahockey
I feel like Wahlstrom is overrated


I did too early last year when he was struggling in college. However, he's having a good start to his professional career and already got an NHL call up. He looked pretty good in his limited time up here, despite playing in the bottom-6. I'm fairly confident he's going to be a stud
Dec 4, 2019 at 7:00
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I would use their strength to work their needs...
Use Colorado as the example. Last season, they had a great 1st line but, were limited after that. What did they do? They used their strength, (their D depth) and picks to add Kadri and Burakowsky along with UFA Domskoi. They still have amazing, young assets and have improved their team immensely.

The islanders have great D depth. Current players, young players, they all can't fit. IMO, the best thing they can do is use that depth and turn it into current help, (top 6 winger or 3rd line C)
Pulock, Dobson, Wilde and Mayfield cannot all play on the right side in the NHL. They have to make a determination of who they're going to use and who will be expendable and use that to add.
I think one of the best things management can do for this roster is show them they believe in them. Spending some future to make their current season roster better goes a long way with players confidence.
Dec 5, 2019 at 12:11
#15
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Here’s mine:

Dobson
Sorokin
Wahlstrom
Wilde
Holmstrom
Aho
Koivula
Iskhakov
Bellows
Durandeau
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Dec 5, 2019 at 7:23
#16
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Quoting: Wrigley29
I would use their strength to work their needs...
Use Colorado as the example. Last season, they had a great 1st line but, were limited after that. What did they do? They used their strength, (their D depth) and picks to add Kadri and Burakowsky along with UFA Domskoi. They still have amazing, young assets and have improved their team immensely.

The islanders have great D depth. Current players, young players, they all can't fit. IMO, the best thing they can do is use that depth and turn it into current help, (top 6 winger or 3rd line C)
Pulock, Dobson, Wilde and Mayfield cannot all play on the right side in the NHL. They have to make a determination of who they're going to use and who will be expendable and use that to add.
I think one of the best things management can do for this roster is show them they believe in them. Spending some future to make their current season roster better goes a long way with players confidence.


I agree. I’d personally start by looking at our defensemen. Like I said in my comment, guys like Aho and maybe even Wilde should be expendable if the right offer comes around. I just can’t picture all of them on the same blueline
Dec 5, 2019 at 11:01
#17
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
I agree. I’d personally start by looking at our defensemen. Like I said in my comment, guys like Aho and maybe even Wilde should be expendable if the right offer comes around. I just can’t picture all of them on the same blueline


Yes.
The left side has Leddy - Toews - Pelech. With Hickey - Aho - Wotherspoon - Vande Somple in the AHL.
Right side - Boychuk - Pulock - Mayfield - Dobson with Wilde - Hutton - Queinville in the AHL.
That's not even talking about players not in pro hockey (Balduc)
They need to make a decision on who stays in the organization and who can be traded for other needs. The lack of Centers is crazy. The lack of top end wings is not good. I am not sure what Bellows has done to warrant healthy scratches and 4th line min in AHL but that is never good for a player thought to be a top end player.
 
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