Even if we try we won’t. In the last 41 game montreal would have to win 27 game and that would only put montreal at 95 point. So let hope that scandela and kovalchuk play we’ll enough to fetch us a nice return by the deadline

Why trying to tank is Stupid :

In 19 Drafts this millenium ARZ has been bottom 3 in the league for atleast 8/10 .
In 19 Drafts they've yet to get a 1st or a 2nd OA pick and only drafted top 5 a total of 3 times .

So the question becomes do you want to piss off MTL ticket holders by tanking just to go from a 9th-15th pick to a 3th to 8th.
MTL's drafted 3rd overall twice by finishing 3rd worst in the league but we havent sniffed a 1st overall since 1980 .
MTL hasnt gotten a 2nd OA pick since 1968 and 1969 accounting for the only 2 in MTL Canadiens history .

The odds of winning a 1st OA in MTL are 100 to 1
The odds of winning a 1st OA when its a French Generational star that hasnt been seen in 30 years are 10,000 to 1

P.s if we wanted Hague we would have taken him in the first round instead of Poehling .
Despite needing LD after just trading Sergachev for Drouin a week before this draft we still passed on Hague .
he'll be good a good #4-5 D like Beauchermin he'll always have a job as long as he wants to play(but MTL doesnt need that as we have a kid who out hit Emelin in Romanov a reigning KHL champ to boot)

Tickets holders are already pissed off and it shows in the attendance at the games as less people show up to watch the team.

Tanking and selling vets for the next 2 seasons could do wonder for this team, especially having multiple 1st round pick this year with the draft being in Montreal. Drafting between around 15th every year and/or having multiple 5th round picks isnt going to make the team better

Everyone knows this team isn't winning anything with Weber, Price and Petry turning 35, 33 and 33 next season.

Montreal needs to tank and sell.

The "we should keep trying to win even though this team isnt good enough" to not piss off fans is so stupid. If you're team can't win now, put a good plan in place to create a winner in the future. Don't pull all the stops to be 15th in the league.

It was idiocy like that, that stopped the Jays from trading Donaldson for top prospects (one that was offered won the rookie of the year the next year) and held on to until he had no value.

You're wrong on this because of one reason: THIS IS A DEEP DRAFT . Hard to miss with multiple picks in this one. And if you trade up for Lafreniere = Franchise Savior.
Also #1 Future Goalie = Askarov ( bye price soon - his best days are over--> better start to get a new goalie soon - see florida bobrovski+knight)
Also true #1 Center = Byfield (could trade Suzuki+Poehling+other assets for him)

If Montreal would hoard a lot of draft picks = Dream scenario in this draft for every ticket holder for next 2-10 years...--> instead try to chase the mount-everest to climb...

Here you go:
u guys would need to beat in the race Florida/Pittsburgh/Philly - all 3 for playoffs spot... seems like a tough mountain to climb... for literally a sure 1st round exit vs top metro... i know upsets are happening... but i wouldn't bet on it...

Right now in my simulations playoffs picture after 82 games over:
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+ miss it ---> in case Pittsburgh has even more injuries coming ---> then Philly takes their spot(unlikely)

Montreal would be crazy to give up on this season and try to tank, they're only 5 points behind Florida and with the injuries and lack of quality depth the Sabres have they're likely gonna start to sink like a stone in the standings so it'll be a three team battle between the Florida teams and the Habs for the final two playoff spots in the Atlantic, the Canadians are in no way out of this race but they gotta start winning some games.
The Habs are flush with prospects and emerging young players at every position so if anything they could afford to part with some to add some pieces for a playoff push.

Montreal doesn't have enough high end prospects and the prospects they do have are still 2 to 3 years from making an impact if they do. By this time Price and Weber are past their mid 30's. Now and next year is the time to turn this franchise around.

MTL's history of 1st overall is 3/5 were busts along with 2/5 picks at 2nd OA and 3rd OA picks.Our top 3 history is shotty at best .
Know where MTL drafts well? #12 and #17 OA in the first round but for the most part is players taken in the 2nd round that make up our cup teams top lines
Of the top 20 All Time Scorers drafted by MTL Canadiens 8 of them were from the 2nd round (more then any other round featuring big cup winning core players)

if you're a habs fan you understand how stupid this is
if you're a Oilers fan i can understand the rose colored glasses as they've had more 1st OA picks in the past 10-15 years then MTL has in its history .

That being said this post is utter non sense
we'll only move players if it makes sense .
Reilly leaving got us a 5 and gave room for Scandella we paid a 4th for
MB likes deals like that where he essentially upgraded his D from a #7 D to a #4D for picking 20-31 spots later in the draft.

we dont need high end we need tough guys to protect poor Kotkanemi who 19 in his 2nd year pro and just taken a crap kicking the past 2 seasons (injured multiple times)
We need a guy like Emelin teams fear and right now we dont have that .

a Kyle Clifford , Ryan Reaves or Antoine Roussell would go a long way towards helping us fix that and would only cost from a 5th to a 3rd at most (maybe a prospect a team plans on not offering a contract to like Hudon or Mccarron )

You can never state q draft will be deep in advance.

I still remember my buddy telling me how the Habs should trade price, Pacioretty and Subban so they could get all the top picks, so that in addition to Galchenyuk they could draft Yakupov, Grigorenko, and Murray.

That would have worked out great....

Everyone seems awesome now, plenty don't pan out...

Teams shouldn't add for a "playoff push". They should add to try to contend.

I am neither a Habs not an Oilers fan.

But more importantly, the way the franchise drafted over 10 years ago has essentially zero relevance to how it drafts today. Who in the management group are still around to lead it in similar ways?

Also if you can't see the value difference between a 16th and 6th overall draft pick I don't know what to tell you

Finally if you aren't competing in the next two years, you need to decide what to do about price and Weber as those contracts are going to be boat anchors soon.

Ah, now I see where your opinions come from. You think adding a tough fourth liner is going to make a noticeable difference on team success... Got jt

this is just wrong

things evolved it doesnt mean its not the same
been watching the Draft for 30 + years so i know this as Fact

you're just trying to exaggerate a point to avoid dealing with the fact a MTL fan who knows his team pointed out the fact that you dont .

As far as Price and Weber they arent MTL .....
Prices job is to be Tandem with Primeau until he's ready or he can ask for a Trade period .
Weber's cap is high but contract almost all paid summer 2022 making it way easier to move him

If you ever watched a game in MTL you know 2 things are always gonne be true

1. There will always be a Demand for French Players over Skilled Players
2. MTL is the Goalie Manufacturer and when one goes away another rises .

Before Price there was a few very good goalies until we hit our next great one after Roy
This time we got Primeau here 2 years ahead of his projections to turn Pro and already out performing all in the system but Price

i get what you're trying to say but its built on lack of knowledge about MTL and how the French Natives operate Our Team .
You assume a lot then instead of making your own statements you proceed to do anything possible to undermine others because you have nothing to offer in context without getting called out .

Yakupov is widely considered one of the greatest draft busts in NHL history. - from wikpedia

Nice example - definitely every draft is like that... Players + scouts + advanced stats + everything is better nowadays... that was in 2012 and russians also always have a risk.... See how many teams passed on Kucherov in his draft? It doesn't make this draft a bad one... But yes there is a super small % it's true that the draft will be not as good as projections. But you should always go average result will be in 3-5 years from the 2020 draft = most likely good

Patrick Maroon STL 2019 Stanley Cup Champ

Yup , just a cold dose of Reality

I love that guy
You have no idea how much + it brings to our team. ( even if results doesn't show it - if you look at the standings).

I do agree that we need toughness and size. But drafting a guy like Tkachuk, Draisaitl, Dubois, Laine, MacKinnon and even Zadorov is what will make us win.

Montreal as enough bottom 6 forwards. They need players with skilled, good hockey IQ, speed and size. And you draft those usually in the top 5.

The entire Montreal organization is in need of an overhaul. Change almost everything and everyone from top to bottom. Get the best people in place.

There seem to be the illusion on CapFriendly by some....my team isn't going to win the Cup....or make the playoffs. So some tank somehow, that guarantees the # 1 pick and then the next season. it's a Cup final for sure.

It's not only on capfriendly, look at what everyone thought on other sites/forums/youtube etc... about (i learned my lesson i thought Devils might in the playoffs race in february with Subban,Gusev etc... looks like you need to start with a goalie first...+ couple of prime superstars like MacKinnon,Crosby, Ovi, or Kucherov...) Even prime McDavid sometimes doesn't worth anything... if the other players are not good enough/bad coach/bad gm...

Hughes = instawinmode at 18 years old Well it didn't happen, and they already sold Hall,Coleman and more sells incoming for sure, like Vatanen...(if they can't extend him)

Montreal really should tank now after this losing streak... let just make the playoffs and lose in 1st round... so montreal fans can laugh about your team... and have a mediocre chance % to pick up Lafraniere/Raymond/Rossi/Byfield etc...
I'm sure they laughed about us last year when we got eliminated by ... Let's see in this season who laughs last...