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Kreider Trade

Created by: chrisdouglasavs19
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 18, 2020
Published: Feb. 18, 2020
Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Kreider, Chris
NYR
  1. Kaut, Martin
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Second becomes a first if Kreider resigns.
Buyouts
  • Brooks Orpik: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tyson Barrie: $2,750,000 (50%)
  • Ian Cole: $800,000 (19%)
Buried
  • Kevin Connauton: $300,000 ($1,375,000)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,684,761$0$3,532,500$2,815,239

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Kreider, Chris
$4,625,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
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Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
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Burakovsky, André
$3,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Nichushkin, Valeri
$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
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Donskoi, Joonas
$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
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Calvert, Matt
$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Jost, Tyson
$885,833
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Graves, Ryan
$735,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
UFA - 2
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Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
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Girard, Samuel
$728,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
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Francouz, Pavel
$950,000
G
UFA - 1
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Cole, Ian
$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Zadorov, Nikita
$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Barberio, Mark
$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Wilson, Colin
$2,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Kamenev, Vladislav
$750,000
C
RFA - 1
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Nieto, Matt
$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Landeskog, G.
MacKinnon, N.
Rantanen, M.
Kadri, N.
Makar, C.
Power Play 2
Kreider, C.
Compher, J.
Burakovsky, A.
Graves, R.
Girard, S.
Penalty Kill 1
Compher, J.
Donskoi, J.
Graves, R.
Johnson, E.
Penalty Kill 2
Calvert, M.
Bellemare, P.
Cole, I.
Zadorov, N.

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Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
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Deal
Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
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Evergreen til monday but the price is going to be an unprotected 2020 first and a good prospect, with maybe a conditional attached like, becomes a 2nd if team wins cup or re-signs etc. So while i dont think Kreider alone gets a 1st and Newhook, He probably gets a 1st and Kaut straight up. Just like when the Boston fans post a bunch of hemming and hawwing that a 1st and studnicka is too much, there are probably 4 teams right now offering a 2020 1st for Kreider (Fla, Stl, Bos & Co at least) and it just comes down to which prospect Gorton likes most. And i think his order is Newhook, Kyrou, Kaut,...gap... studnicka
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Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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no 3rd
Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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Quoting: FireBotts
Deal


If you're Colorado yea...if you're NYR no

that kinda means no deal
Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Old_Snowman
If you're Colorado yea...if you're NYR no

that kinda means no deal


its meh, I dont like the idea of moving Kaut to be honest.
The fan base would rather move Jost if it came down to it
Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
its meh, I dont like the idea of moving Kaut to be honest.
The fan base would rather move Jost if it came down to it


With Kreider looking to be the cream of the crap this deadline, we have to hope the price is going up as supply decreases. I’d say on the Rangers end the ask should be 1st plus Kaut for Kreider.

Any interest in Lundqvist if he waived his NTC and we retained 50%? He’s got one year left at $8.5, and that looks like a weakness from the outside looking in at Colorado, especially if Grubauer isn’t right.
Kreider and Lundqvist (50% retained) for 1st and Newhook? Or 1st, Kaut and Bowers/Beaucage/Kovalenko?
Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:55 p.m.
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not enough. you're gonna need to give us a first and a b prospect at the least
Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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make it an unconditional 1st and that'll get it done.. or up it to newhook, your choice
Feb. 18, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.
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Avs add Sakic and a 3rd rounder
Feb. 18, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Widowmaker
With Kreider looking to be the cream of the crap this deadline, we have to hope the price is going up as supply decreases. I’d say on the Rangers end the ask should be 1st plus Kaut for Kreider.

Any interest in Lundqvist if he waived his NTC and we retained 50%? He’s got one year left at $8.5, and that looks like a weakness from the outside looking in at Colorado, especially if Grubauer isn’t right.
Kreider and Lundqvist (50% retained) for 1st and Newhook? Or 1st, Kaut and Bowers/Beaucage/Kovalenko?


no interest in Lundqvist and no no no no interest in moving newhook...come on man
Feb. 18, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Spanky227
make it an unconditional 1st and that'll get it done.. or up it to newhook, your choice


newhook hahaha you are delusional
Feb. 18, 2020 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
no interest in Lundqvist and no no no no interest in moving newhook...come on man


Come on man? I didn’t ask for your kidney. It was a simple question, you don’t have get all torqued up about it. The Avs have no interest in adding a goaltender, or you don’t have any interest, or are you on the board of directors over there?
Feb. 18, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
newhook hahaha you are delusional


You wanna win a cup? you gotta pay the piper
Feb. 18, 2020 at 6:36 p.m.
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Quoting: divein295
You wanna win a cup? you gotta pay the piper


Then kreider has to be a much better and young player if you think that’s his price, live in reality
Feb. 18, 2020 at 6:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Widowmaker
Come on man? I didn’t ask for your kidney. It was a simple question, you don’t have get all torqued up about it. The Avs have no interest in adding a goaltender, or you don’t have any interest, or are you on the board of directors over there?


Avs have no interest in a goalie and have no interest in moving one of the best prospects In the NCAA for a 38 year old one
Feb. 18, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.
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Then kreider has to be a much better and young player if you think that’s his price, live in reality



reality here is the AVs are in their window for a cup. If they want to win a cup, you need a power forward that is one of the fastest guys in the league and is a force on the PP. Fact is you have a center out and your best winger is out for weeks with a UBI (broken collar bone). You are not throwing in the towel when you are 1 point out of the top seed with a game in hand.
Feb. 18, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.
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its meh, I dont like the idea of moving Kaut to be honest.
The fan base would rather move Jost if it came down to it

Jost doesn't have enough value anymore in a Kreider trade. Even the Avalanche seem down on him, at this point. In a sellers market, they have moved up into the Kaut/Bowers range.
Feb. 18, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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Jost doesn't have enough value anymore in a Kreider trade. Even the Avalanche seem down on him, at this point. In a sellers market, they have moved up into the Kaut/Bowers range.

Then keep dreaming
Feb. 18, 2020 at 7:24 p.m.
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reality here is the AVs are in their window for a cup. If they want to win a cup, you need a power forward that is one of the fastest guys in the league and is a force on the PP. Fact is you have a center out and your best winger is out for weeks with a UBI (broken collar bone). You are not throwing in the towel when you are 1 point out of the top seed with a game in hand.


Their window is just opening they are not going to be reckless, it’s not that hard to see what their plan is and Friedman alewady said avs are looking to make good hockey trades

You can wish all you want with this avs are in win now logic but its just trying to fool yourself into a situation that isn’t there

They are an good team now with talent on its way. They aren’t going to burn their assets bc other fan bases want them too
 
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