brace yourself, here come the ducks fans

Lmao

QUACK QUACK QUACK

Wont happen without Liljegren in the deal. Try Kerfoot + Liljegren + 2021 2nd for Manson

Or just anyone who has a clue about the NHL


Guess who laughs in the face of this offer? Ducks management.

This trade is bonkers! I don't like to use the B word too often
hard pass by the ducks

I'm not even a Duck fan, And that trade is a joke. Johnsson+Dermott alone don't net Manson let alone Anaheim adding Boston's 1st round pick in this crappy deal. Once again Dermott is LD tha does nothing for Anaheim. Once again without Liljegren heading to Anaheim there will be no Manson for the Leafs.

oh you're absolutely right. Ducks fans are gonna say the same thing but angrier

I was basing off a Kapanen for Manson trade, but was under the impression the ducks wanted a D piece going back. Johnsson + Dermott seems like an overpay for Manson straight up. And Boston's first is likely to be 25th-31st overall. Perhaps Liljegren + Johnsson for Manson and a 2nd is more reasonable? I don't hate that trade from a Leafs perspective.

Yup have to remember that Anaheim loves Manson, And unless Ducks GM Bob Murray gets blown away with an offer he can't refuse. Manson wont be going anywhere.

No. No no no. You’re just starting with a flawed concept here. You’re trying to give up a bunch of stuff you don’t really care about losing for something the leafs need. That’s not going to happen.

Not necessarily. Dermott has a ton of upside - the Leafs would rather not trade him. Johnsson likely won't improve much but is a valuable piece. Liljegren especially has a ton of upside. This isn't a spare parts trade. But... if Manson isn't moving, then he's not moving. 2 of those three Leafs players should be enough to get a Manson-equivalent RD back, maybe from Carolina.

Would take Lily + Kap and maybe more to get Manson out of ANA, can argue whether you think its fair or whatever but thats the reality of the situation. Ducks don't need Dermott, we have Lindholm, Fowler, Larsson, Guhle, Mahura, Lacombe, Thurn all on the left side, we need RD not LD

GMBM loves Manson and as others have said he will need to be blown away to move him, we can argue whether thats a good strategy or not but BM is a stubborn guy

Dermott Doesn’t add much more than Djoo and they got Djoo for a life time AHLer. You would have to give up an assets like nylander not trash to make this deal work. Guys like Dermott are a dime a dozen. Every player in the nhl at some point has “upside” that’s why they are drafted. Ducks have an established player they hardly need a project player/risk

Oh don’t you dare even bring pesce into this. Leave Carolina alone.

Be honest with yourself. If Dermott had tons of upside, you probably wouldn’t want to trade him. Manson could be had, but the leafs would have to give up something they don’t want to. Think of it this way, if you don’t want him, other teams probably don’t either.

I said specifically that the Leafs don't want to trade him. The issue is that the leafs need a guy with similar qualities but more experience. It's possible Dermott turns into the guy they need, but it means waiting a few years, and by then maybe it's too late for your core. If the right RD is available, I'm not opposed to trading Lilj instead - again, it's about timing.

Also, why the hell would't Carolina consider trading a D? It gets brought up a lot because it's an obvious trade partner. They have D. They want more scoring (...and goaltending).

Sure! Carolina would make a real solid trade partner, but stop offering up Bracco and a 9th rounder for Pesce 50% retained. 99% of the offers for Pesce on here are a joke. Guys a stud. They would make great trade partners if the leafs offer up Nylander. If that doesn’t happen, there isn’t anything to discuss.

Right, well I'm not offering peanuts for Pesce. He scored a hat trick against the leafs not long ago... But there's very few defencemen in the league worth trading Nylander for.

Considering Carolina has Justin Williams playing in their top 6, I doubt they'd scoff at a trade centered around Kapanen/Johnsson.

They wouldn’t scoff. They would laugh.