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Eichel who says no and why

Created by: Bostonbruins
Initial Creation Date: Mar 29, 2020
Published: Mar 29 at 2:53 pm
Team: 2019-20 Minnesota Wild
Trades
MIN
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Donato, Ryan
  2. Fiala, Kevin
  3. Kunin, Luke
  4. 2020 1st round pick (MIN)
  5. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
  6. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
Buyouts
  • Tyler Ennis: $1,216,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2021
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$81,295,255$0$500,000$1,204,745
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MIN
Parise, Zach
$7,538,461
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Koivu, Mikko
$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
MIN
Rask, Victor
$4,000,000
C
UFA - 3
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$2,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MIN
Staal, Eric
$3,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
$1,900,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$1,487,500
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
$916,666
LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Suter, Ryan
$7,538,461
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
MIN
Dubnyk, Devan
$4,333,333
G
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$5,187,500
RD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 3
MIN
Soucy, Carson
$750,000
D
UFA - 1
MIN
Pateryn, Greg
$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
MIN
Hunt, Brad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Mar 29 at 2:57
#1
Banned
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I actually like. Buffalo accepts
Mar 29 at 3:01
#2
Leafs GM v4
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Eichel without a doubt. Who would want to live in Minnesota
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Mar 29 at 3:03
#3
The Enlightened One
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Quoting: Jack_
Eichel without a doubt. Who would want to live in Minnesota


I mean, he already lives in Buffalo now...
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Mar 29 at 3:04
#4
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These eichel trades are obnoxious. Go read a book
Mar 29 at 3:10
#5
Go Wings Go
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Dude you obviously have too much times on your hands?
Mar 29 at 3:25
#6
Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Dude you obviously have too much times on your hands?


.... don’t act like u don’t either
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Mar 29 at 3:26
#7
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Buffalo says no because Eichel is much more valuable than this
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Mar 29 at 3:27
#8
Team caaaannnaaada
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If Buffalo trade Eichel they will want top end prospectS, a regular player that can have a impact right, high first round picks.
Eichel is younger then all those players you throw at Buffalo and their no prospect involved. Buffalo would at least ask for Kaprizov and Boldy plus the first round pick and Fiala or Brodin or Dumba
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Mar 29 at 3:28
#9
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Quoting: Sebybbq
If Buffalo trade Eichel they will want top end prospectS, a regular player that can have a impact right, high first round picks.
Eichel is younger then all those players you throw at Buffalo and their no prospect involved. Buffalo would at least ask for Kaprizov and Boldy plus the first round pick and Fiala or Brodin or Dumba



yup this trade is an absolute joke
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Mar 29 at 3:35
#10
Team caaaannnaaada
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Quoting: sabres1108
yup this trade is an absolute joke


Yeah i know even the one i propose the Sabres wouldn’t consider it. I just don’t think that Minnesota have the prospect to make this kind of deal. I could see 5 team with prospect and draft pick that could offer Buffalo something interesting enough to listen to. Montreal, Los Angeles, Ottawa, New Jersey, Rangers. Colorado had a great prospect pool but hold a late first round pick and doesn’t have any young forward that would be available in a trade right now. Can’t see them sacrificing a guy like Girard or Makar.
Mar 29 at 4:30
#11
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Quoting: Sebybbq
If Buffalo trade Eichel they will want top end prospectS, a regular player that can have a impact right, high first round picks.
Eichel is younger then all those players you throw at Buffalo and their no prospect involved. Buffalo would at least ask for Kaprizov and Boldy plus the first round pick and Fiala or Brodin or Dumba


@Sebybbq
Thanks for your comment, the best one on this post.
First of all they are only months older than Jack
Jack Eichel C RH Born Oct 28 1996 68 36 42 78 Cap Hit of $10,000,000 to 2025-26 (UFA)
Donato, Ryan C LH born Apr 9 1996 62 14 9 23 Cap Hit of $1,900,000 to 2020-21 (RFA)
Fiala, Kevin Born LW LH Jul 22 1996 64 23 31 54 Cap Hit of $3,000,000 to 2020-21 (RFA)
Kunin, Luke C RH Born Dec 4 1997 63 15 16 31 Cap Hit of $925,000 to 2019-20 (RFA)
Second, Buffalo is getting 3 picks all 47 or better in the same year (this is important so the team does not have to draw out the time to see the returns on the trade).
Third, Buffalo does not need another RHD so Let's remove Dumba.
Fourth Buffalo sheds about $4,000,000 of cap and collectively picks up 16 goals and 30 pts as well as the picks.
Finally, I think Buffalo would hate to trade Jack, but Buffalo also needs more depth, and maybe this would give it to them.
Mar 29 at 4:43
#12
Team caaaannnaaada
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Quoting: Bostonbruins
@Sebybbq
Thanks for your comment, the best one on this post.
First of all they are only months older than Jack
Jack Eichel C RH Born Oct 28 1996 68 36 42 78 Cap Hit of $10,000,000 to 2025-26 (UFA)
Donato, Ryan C LH born Apr 9 1996 62 14 9 23 Cap Hit of $1,900,000 to 2020-21 (RFA)
Fiala, Kevin Born LW LH Jul 22 1996 64 23 31 54 Cap Hit of $3,000,000 to 2020-21 (RFA)
Kunin, Luke C RH Born Dec 4 1997 63 15 16 31 Cap Hit of $925,000 to 2019-20 (RFA)
Second, Buffalo is getting 3 picks all 47 or better in the same year (this is important so the team does not have to draw out the time to see the returns on the trade).
Third, Buffalo does not need another RHD so Let's remove Dumba.
Fourth Buffalo sheds about $4,000,000 of cap and collectively picks up 16 goals and 30 pts as well as the picks.
Finally, I think Buffalo would hate to trade Jack, but Buffalo also needs more depth, and maybe this would give it to them.


Depth is sure nice to get but you can acquire depth on free agency at reasonable price. But acquiring elite talent is almost impossible via free agency so if you go that way in a trade you need to gave players who have at least that potential. Fiala is a nice players probably a 50-60 point forward at is best and kunin and donato are bottom 6 players. The Sabres would want at least prospect who have potential to become all star. Eichel is possibly a top 10 players in the entired league the cost will be high to acquire him since 29 other team will at least make a offer.
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Mar 29 at 5:07
#13
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Depth is sure nice to get but you can acquire depth on free agency at reasonable price. But acquiring elite talent is almost impossible via free agency so if you go that way in a trade you need to gave players who have at least that potential. Fiala is a nice players probably a 50-60 point forward at is best and kunin and donato are bottom 6 players. The Sabres would want at least prospect who have potential to become all star. Eichel is possibly a top 10 players in the entired league the cost will be high to acquire him since 29 other team will at least make a offer.


Most of this is right, except- acquiring depth in free agency is not something that happens at a reasonable price, for buffalo at least. Especially agree with the final thought, ya know, make your offer, leave it on the table, and we will check it against the other 29 offers and get back to you. If it doesnt hurt, you already know the answer.
Mar 29 at 5:22
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Team caaaannnaaada
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Quoting: sabres89
Most of this is right, except- acquiring depth in free agency is not something that happens at a reasonable price, for buffalo at least. Especially agree with the final thought, ya know, make your offer, leave it on the table, and we will check it against the other 29 offers and get back to you. If it doesnt hurt, you already know the answer.


I mean getting depth via free agency is doable at reasonable price. You can get a 4 th line center like nate thompson, a guy like brandon tanev for under 4 millions who play penalty kill and give you 30-35 point a season. Players like hagelin and Panik for under 2 millions. There plenty of example of good deal. I just think Botterill have not targeting the good players on the market. Giving 9 millions to skinner was completely insane.
Mar 29 at 8:25
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Quoting: Sebybbq
I mean getting depth via free agency is doable at reasonable price. You can get a 4 th line center like nate thompson, a guy like brandon tanev for under 4 millions who play penalty kill and give you 30-35 point a season. Players like hagelin and Panik for under 2 millions. There plenty of example of good deal. I just think Botterill have not targeting the good players on the market. Giving 9 millions to skinner was completely insane.


I know its all the rage to rag on the skinner contract, i certainly dont love it, but its not even debatable, signing skinner with the hopes of sheary and johansson who isnt even a center- you set yourself up to look like a clown
 
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