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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 30, 2020
Published: Apr. 30, 2020
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Lines can be adjusted in several different ways and would be throughout the year. So no point in arguing about those fine details.
This team is disgusting.
I know that Seth Jones and William Nylander will both probably not be traded. But this trade would be close to fair value for both teams.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,250,000
2$2,250,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
CBJ
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Nylander, William
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2022 7th round pick (OTT)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,412,417$0$0$1,087,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:06 p.m.
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No thanks. That's a overpay
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:07 p.m.
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That’s brutal
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
No thanks. That's a overpay


Maybe. But this team is closer to winning the Stanley cup than the team with Nylander. Seth Jones fills our number one biggest hole. This team has no major hole in it. Small holes yes. But nothing glaring. Which there is on right d without Jones.
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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That’s brutal


For who? In which way?
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
No thanks. That's a overpay


No that's what I would take to acquire an elite d-man who can do everything
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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Pretty fair deal imo
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:11 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
No that's what I would take to acquire an elite d-man who can do everything


Quoting: SevenLeg
Pretty fair deal imo


Leafs don't need Jones and at that price no way.
It's not a good trade for both teams. Leafs and afford to overpay
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Leafs don't need Jones and at that price no way.
It's not a good trade for both teams. Leafs and afford to overpay


There's always cheaper options for you than Jones for sure but that is the cost to acquire him.
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Leafs don't need Jones and at that price no way.
It's not a good trade for both teams. Leafs and afford to overpay


Leafs don't need Jones?! What are you smoking? Their biggest hole is that they are missing a high end right hand dman. That would be Jones. He isn't a pure Offensive Dman. He is an all around gangster on D.
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Leafs don't need Jones and at that price no way.
It's not a good trade for both teams. Leafs and afford to overpay


Uhhhh... the Leafs would need Jones. With Reilly and Joes as your top 2 d-men you would be all set for a dynasty
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
There's always cheaper options for you than Jones for sure but that is the cost to acquire him.


Agreed. And I have played around with many AGM's that get much lesser options on D. Such as DeMelo. I just like going after Jones from time to time smile
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
No thanks. That's a overpay


Overpay, ok but I'm pretty sure CBJ declines.
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
There's always cheaper options for you than Jones for sure but that is the cost to acquire him.


I 100% agree. Leafs should go after a cheaper d than make this weird trade

Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Uhhhh... the Leafs would need Jones. With Reilly and Joes as your top 2 d-men you would be all set for a dynasty


please Jones is overrated. and next time read my words right. Leafs don't need Jones at that price
I love Jones but this price is disgusting. Our future top 4 dman and a 30+ goal scorer to play with Matthews
Not even realistic.

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Leafs don't need Jones?! What are you smoking? Their biggest hole is that they are missing a high end right hand dman. That would be Jones. He isn't a pure Offensive Dman. He is an all around gangster on D.


LMFAO. Are you saying we need ANOTHER offensive defenseman? You mind as well resign Tyson barrie is you wanna run another guy out of town. Leafs need a defenseman that can play defense
I'm not smoking you guys are the ones smoking lol. Imagine thinking the leafs need more scoring?!
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
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Overpay, ok but I'm pretty sure CBJ declines.


Lol agree. They reject but every idiot here doesn't realize that this isn't a good trade for both teams.
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
I 100% agree. Leafs should go after a cheaper d than make this weird trade



please Jones is overrated. and next time read my words right. Leafs don't need Jones at that price
I love Jones but this price is disgusting. Our future top 4 dman and a 30+ goal scorer to play with Matthews
Not even realistic.



LMFAO. Are you saying we need ANOTHER offensive defenseman? You mind as well resign Tyson barrie is you wanna run another guy out of town. Leafs need a defenseman that can play defense
I'm not smoking you guys are the ones smoking lol. Imagine thinking the leafs need more scoring?!


I said he is not only an offensive dman. I said he is an all round dman. Re-read what I wrote.
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
I 100% agree. Leafs should go after a cheaper d than make this weird trade



please Jones is overrated. and next time read my words right. Leafs don't need Jones at that price
I love Jones but this price is disgusting. Our future top 4 dman and a 30+ goal scorer to play with Matthews
Not even realistic.



LMFAO. Are you saying we need ANOTHER offensive defenseman? You mind as well resign Tyson barrie is you wanna run another guy out of town. Leafs need a defenseman that can play defense
I'm not smoking you guys are the ones smoking lol. Imagine thinking the leafs need more scoring?!


-Jones is elite at everything. Him and the goalies carried Columbus this season
-to even put Jones and Barrie in the same sentence about defence is insulting to Jones.
-d-men carry more value then forwards. The picks don't do much for the trade and Liljegren isn't proven. That's the problem with Leafs fans. It seems they think they can get a top 5 d-men in the league for Marner or Nylander
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:23 p.m.
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Lol agree. They reject but every idiot here doesn't realize that this isn't a good trade for both teams.


Something that pretty much only happens on CapFriendly. You don't see a lot of real trades that aren't good for either team.
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.
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Really not sure how Leafs fans say this is an over payment when Jones instantly becomes the best defense the team has ever had since Kaberle
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
-Jones is elite at everything. Him and the goalies carried Columbus this season
-to even put Jones and Barrie in the same sentence about defence is insulting to Jones.
-d-men carry more value then forwards. The picks don't do much for the trade and Liljegren isn't proven. That's the problem with Leafs fans. It seems they think they can get a top 5 d-men in the league for Marner or Nylander


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I said he is not only an offensive dman. I said he is an all round dman. Re-read what I wrote.


You guys aren't even listening. This isn't a good trade for both teams. Leafs lose a top scoring forward and defenseman that looks like he is gonna be part of the leafs future.
If you wanna keep talking go ahead I have better things to talk about
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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You guys aren't even listening. This isn't a good trade for both teams. Leafs lose a top scoring forward and defenseman that looks like he is gonna be part of the leafs future.
If you wanna keep talking go ahead I have better things to talk about


Never said Columbus does this. I'm just sayin that TOR should take that
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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For who? In which way?


You’re joking right?
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:35 p.m.
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You’re joking right?


No man. People on here have argued both cases, so far. Meaning that the value is probably quite fair. Doesn't mean either team or one of the teams actually does it.
Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.
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No man. People on here have argued both cases, so far. Meaning that the value is probably quite fair. Doesn't mean either team or one of the teams actually does it.


It’s not good for either team.
Liljegren has that top 4 pot.
Toronto doesn’t really need Jones when they can get Demelo without a trade.
Columbus doesn’t want another right winger.
Toronto isn’t gonna look to love one of their top forwards. The trade is fair but isn’t good for either team when there are other options.
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Apr. 30, 2020 at 10:42 p.m.
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It’s not good for either team.
Liljegren has that top 4 pot.
Toronto doesn’t really need Jones when they can get Demelo without a trade.
Columbus doesn’t want another right winger.
Toronto isn’t gonna look to love one of their top forwards. The trade is fair but isn’t good for either team when there are other options.


Columbus only does this if they see Nylander having legit potential at centre and if they see Lily having top 4 potential.
And you have to see that there is a big difference between Jones and DeMelo. I think the Leafs will play it safe and more realistically go after an option like DeMelo. But Seth Jones would be a much much bigger piece than Demelo. This AGM was to see how that team would look like. Even if it is not as realistic.
Thanks for explaining your point. Because what you wrote above versus "This is brutal" are completely different.
 
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