Habs decline

toronto declines. Kerfoot is the better center option than Jost as we cannot afford to wait and see if he gets better. His FOW% is abysmal and could cost the leafs games. Sure kerfoot had a down year, but he was still playing better and he should bounce back to 40 points next season. Kapenan for Nichuskin is an even harder pass as Kap is younger and has more to prove.

i see we're not even trying to get the leafs stuff they need with their trade assets anymore

No...just No

That’s bad lmao MTL Leafs decline

I like Kapanen but I'd rather keep Nichuskin if you're going to include a Kerfoot/Jost swap in that deal. There's a reason why we traded Kerfoot and it's because he doesn't fit a bottom 6 role very well. Huge swerve on Kerfoot.

Kerfoot isn't a better C option than Jost, AT ALL. Jost is far more defensively responsible and forechecks much better, so he fits a bottom 6 role much better.

Nor did Kerfoot have "a down year". What you got this season is what Kerfoot is. Just as Avs fans told you last summer when the trade was made. He's not good enough for a top 6 role on a contender, nor is he rugged enough for a bottom 6 checking role. Just a very bland player, and at $3.5m he has an awful contract for the type of player that he is.

Kapanen probably has more value than Nichuskin, but Nichuskin is Colorado's best defensive forward by far so we aren't keen to trade him. He's exactly the sort of player that helps you win and grind teams down in the playoffs.

Regarding the Montour trade I think Colorado would rather keep Cole if the price involves 2 2nd's. A RHD upgrade would be nice, but it's not worth the cost here.

Cole has only 1 year left which is ideal to transition towards Byram and Timmins, and is also a proven playoff warrior and fits the bottom pairing perfectly.

Paying assets like that for Montour would be bad asset management ahead of the Expansion Draft as well, since we'd be forced to expose one of Graves or Montour himself.

Gotta disagree with you there, Kerfoot did have a down year he even admited to it. He said he plans to improve next season as he has gotten used to Keefe's system and his ever-changing linemates so we shall see what happens. As for jost he's okay but his numbers just aren't great. He is inconsistent and sure can be good but he may just be better off moving on to another team as it did wonders for nichuskin . As for defense both kerfoot and jost are pretty even jost this season had 58 hits and blocked 18 shots. Kerfoot had 10 less hits in 2 less games but blocked 33 more shots. So for defense both excel in their own fields. Jost is a checker and kerfoots a blocker. In general between the 2 kerfoots the better option and once he finds his game again were good.

Kerfoot "admitting" to having a down year doesn't mean that it actually was a down year. Maybe he just sucks. I mean, what is he supposed to say when asked about his low point total?.... "Umm err, yeah i have low points but it's still been a great year"... Gotta sell the fans on the hope that he'll somehow improve, which he won't. He is what he is, and Sakic knew that well enough to trade him rather than getting stuck with that contract.

As for your Jost/Kerfoot comparison, measuring defense by how many hits or blocks a player makes is an extremely limit and outdated way to measure how good a player is defensively.

For reference here's a tweet this year showing what type of player Jost is:

Bryce Chevallier (L'Architecte)
@FauxCentre
Jun 11
Tyson Jost doesn't drive a line but is a valuable asset. He helps keep the puck on the right end of the ice and support offence well

Yeah I think Bergevin got his lesson with the Shaw trade, no way we're giving pick 40 for rights, maybe a fourth but most likely a fifth.

@Richard88
IMO, Buffalo would love that trade.
Cole would be perfect behind Dahlin and paired with Ristolainen.
The MTL 2nd alone would be acceptable.
BTW let me add, Montour gets a bad rap as being uni-dimensional, but he had the best +/- among all skaters and only Scandella had a better PDO among the defensemen.
I would not want to trade Montour unless the return was really good.

Cole + 2nd is certainly more palatable. Quite a fair trade in fact.

That said, I'm not sure Montour is really what this team needs.

As the article below discusses, Montour is very good with zone exits, but he doesn't really contribute much in terms of defense or offense beyond that. He'd be a good Dman to pair with someone who's more of a defensive type and on a line with forwards who can create their own offense once the puck is moving up the ice. But if you look Colorado's defensemen (i.e. Makar, Girard, Byram) their strong suit is playing in transition.

Needless to say, we're already well stocked in the area of the game that Montour contributes the most in, so it doesn't really seem like a good match. Ideally Girard/Byram need a partner who can clear the crease and do some heavy lifting on D for them, rather than another zone exit specialist like Montour. For that reason I think I'd rather keep Cole, since he's just simply a better compliment to our other Dmen.

https://www.diebytheblade.com/2020/1/31/21116374/brandon-montour-buffalo-sabres-could-benefit-from-a-shift-in-zone-deployment

That all said, I'm curious what you think Montour's next contract will be?

$5,250,000, I guess 5 years?

If that's what he's looking for then Colorado definitely won't be acquiring him. Don't want that contract on the books in 2021 when Makar/Landeskog/Grubauer need contracts, or in 2023 with Mackinnon/Byram up.

My Spidey-sense is tingling w/ that web looking graphic; WTF?
I don't do analytics.
And that 'mess' from "@faux-garbage" might be a good reason to keep me off of it forever!

* Do you know where the "data" truly comes from?
* Who/whom collects the "data"?
* Did they collect "data" in game or just rip it from the web?
* How many points of "data" are they graphing anyways?
* How are these "data" collectors paid?
* Who signs the payslip of these "data" collectors?
* Are the "data" collectors, or their boss', non-biased/independent OR do they have an agenda?
* What is their qualification(s) to collect this "data"?

As they say in Science:
GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT...

Best solution and it's as old as the hills = turn on your TV/NHL-Live and watch TJ for yourself...

Analytics can give you a basic understanding of a players strengths and weaknesses. But yeah, nothing beats the eye test.

As long as the collection of the said analytics has validity!
No one on CF, 0% to date, has proven beyond a shadow-of-a-doubt the "W5's" of analytics (who, what, where, when & why?)
"Stuff" is just re-produced from someone/something else. No data vetting, fact checking or in-depth analyses beyond 'cut-copy-paste'...

"G in G out!"
Cheers...

Fair point. I think the analytics invariably match up to the eye test 95% of the time though, so there's that...