SkatinTintin

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Forum: NHL SigningsJun 26 at 11:22
Thread: Montreal Canadiens signed Mike Reilly (2 Years / $1,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MountRoyal514</b></div><div>Not a huge overpayment, but an overpayment all the same - 900K-1 million should be the max that Reilly pulls in. He has great speed and offensive instincts, but is very mistake-prone in his own end. Habs have terrific RD depth but LD is a hole so this is a result of that I suppose. I think Jordie Benn, while himself imperfect, at 2 X 2.5 would have been a wiser use of money for a 3rd pair LD but what can you do. In the most charitable scenario, perhaps MB realized that Jake Gardiner would be far too expensive as a UFA and had to go this route.</div></div>

Bergevin hinted that Benn wanted way more than market value.

If Reilly doesn't do the job, he can be buried, so no biggie honestly.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 28, 2018 at 6:19
Thread: Line predictions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>if you put Scherbak in the AHL and put Byron in then sure i think these lines are close to opening day honestly
but no one benches a 20 goal scorer for a struggling winger who hasnt adapted to the NHL .
instead they'd bring him up if he's succeeding at AHL and if he does well at the NHL level they'd trade a winger to make space at the deadline while their value is high .

once we signed Armia it spelled AHL start for Scherbak because unlike most we can call him up freely as we please .
Byron and Shaw are both players who might be getting moved this year if we can get their value up by Feb.</div></div>

Byron is wounded, so he won't start the year. I would absolutely be in favor of putting Byron back in the lineup whenever he returns to full health.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 28, 2018 at 4:10
Thread: Price Out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>in all honesty Price for Allen straight up would be the only deal i'd see STL making because Price could be injured his first season there but STL will have to foot the bill for Years and Years .
maybe you convince them to give up a conditional pick or a mid level prospect where Allens struggled since then with consistency but no way in hell you land all that given the history of top goalies being traded in the league never has going back to Hasek being moved to DET or Roy being moved to COL its just unreasonable to expect a goalie to land that</div></div>

There were just rumours, you're right, but it was about a very similar trade, so I mentioned it. I should've said that it was a rumour.

Anyway...

I think Price can be traded next season if he gets an amazing regular season. I'm sure some of the american teams with questionable management, like Carolina, would be ready to give a decent goalie + good prospect in return for Price. And I would personally do that trade, because that 10.5 is going to kill MTL for the next 8 years.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 28, 2018 at 12:30
Thread: Canadiens de Montréal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaptainFlynnt</b></div><div>When Benn is at his best he is very solid defensively, good at breaking up plays, blocking shots, passing lanes, etc. He is better than schlemko defensively and as you said they put up similar number offensively.. factor in Benn makes $1M less and doesnt have the term that Schlemko does and it's quite obvious he is better and has more trade value (this was already proven before schlemko had his injuries.. 4th and Pateryn for Benn vs a 5th for Schlemko).

And as I said it doesnt make sense for MTL to trade Shaw, they dont need cap space and he is a good player when he is healthy. Over the past two seasons if he played a full 82 games he projects to 35 pts and 15 goals which is respectable for a 3rd liner -
One could assume he would have even more consistency if he could stay healthy and 40 pts wouldnt be out of the question, except his health is the question. Unless a team will pay up and give MTL a 2nd they are better off keeping him.</div></div>

Let's agree to disagree regarding Benn and Schlemko.

I don't care about trading Shaw either, I'm just saying no one is going to take him. I personally think he's done and will retire due to his 5 concussions in the last 2 seasons.

edit: MTL has plenty of wingers, anyway. It's not like they need Andrew Shaw.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 27, 2018 at 11:46
Thread: Canadiens de Montréal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaptainFlynnt</b></div><div>Benn was acquired for a 4th round pick and Pateryn, he is worth more than a 7th.

Shaw was acquired for two 2nd round picks, injuries have certainly lowered his value but he is still worth more than a 5th.. hes a 3rd line utility guy that can play every position, hes won cups with Chicago and made big contributions in all of there playoff appearances, and hes a great teammate / locker room guy. His contract is front loaded which also increases his value. MTL has no reason to trade him unless they get a 2nd (not saying other teams will want him for a 2nd, but MTL just has no reason to trade him).

Edit:
Also Benn should have more value than schlemko, MTL gave a 5th to get Schlemko before he was injured and had a down year, his value has only decreased since then.. how do you come up with your trade values?</div></div>

Shaw has more downsides than upsides. He has clear and worrying concussion problems (and that's a major problem when physicality is half your game), he's at 3,9M for 4 more years and what numbers will he pull if he gets to play 82 games? (Which he won't) 35 points? He's maybe tradeable if MTL retains half his salary, maybe with that MTL would get a 2nd round pick.

Schlemko and Benn are nearly exactly the same if you think about point per game, but Schlemko has basic puck handling skills and Benn doesn't. Jordie Benn's future is in the AHL.

Pair Benn with Weber and he'll drag him down. Pair Schlemko with Weber and they'll be able to execute basic plays.

Or find a team that urgently needs a slow 7th defenseman that knows how to do icings, then maybe you'll be able to get a 5th round pick out of him.