I think Compher Timmins and a 1st would be the fair components to the trade. Maybe rights to Cam Morrison or Sampa Ranta are part of it to seal the deal

well its not goign to happen bc no one is getting 2 1st, newhook and then 3 NHlers (Jost Graves and Zads) in your proposal. Its not NHL 20, no team is willing to dismantingly large portions of both the roster and prospect pool for 1 player, even an Eichel level player

Well, I like Compher, although I know little about Timmins and we have a lot of RDs: Risto, Montour, Jokahrju, Miller, Borgen, Laaksonen, Fitzgerald.

I dont even want to trade Timmins bc hes a legit NHL ready prospect, playing top minutes in the AHL last season. Hes a very smart very solid defensively good skating Dman. Offence wont probably come into the NHL, but hes going to be just a RHS version of Graves. You wont have those hold onto your butt moments when he is on the ice or he has the puck in your own zone, confidence he will make the smart player almost every time

Newhook, as I understand it, will be unavailable to Reinhart?

Then wait until his contract year to try to trade for him because no one is trading a top 10 center for anything less than a massive overpay.

just saying in general, the NHL is not set up for those mega deals anymore. quantity or quality you cant get both now in a cap world

Look at the Duchene trade...what would he be top 15ish C at the time of the trade? Avs had to settle on a futures heavy deal bc no one was giving up those young top flight Top 4 dmen for him. Avs just got lucky that they hit on girard picking him over Fabbro and Sens juts becoming a dumpster fire

No. Avs are fine as is with a very competitive team and one of the top prospect pools in the league. They aren't going to give up 6 significant assets + Ranta for 1 guy

Agree. Reinhardt would be an ideal fit as the playmaker on the 2nd line.

That said, chances are that if he prices himself out of Buffalo then he'd also cost more than Sakic would be willing to pay. Unless of course he's willing to sign for less with Colorado than he would with Buffalo, which isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

And no one trades top 10 centers in the NHL just entering their prime with term, asking out or not. This would be an exceptional situation.

which is a fair comment, it is unique for a guy like Eichel to be available (if he is available asking for a trade one day)
to be honest its probably the worst possible time for this talk to even come up...flat cap and expansion draft. Teams are probably more gun-shy than ever to make big deals bc of the unknowns in the next year or 2.

Hopefully sabres dont have to cross that bridge with him

No. Avs have no incentive to make that trade.

I wouldnt trade Rants straight up for Eichel (chemistry contract positional. need) and they want Newhook and a 1st?....yikes

yeah he could be pulling a ROR, he gave the avs 8x8m to keep him and he signed for less in buffalo knowing Avs would never match it. Sabres really are goign to be a very interesting team to watch this offseason

something big is goign to happen...what that is...no clue

And the Sabres have no need to trade Jack Eichel for Casey Mittlestadt 2.0 and some prospects.

I agree. I said before I wouldn't do the trade proposed in this thread. You can keep your star player and the Avs can keep their bright future.

Not necessarily. One thing he has is cost certainty on term. That works in their favor in any deal at least now. If new deals start going down though... But I suspect it's the middle guys (the Paul Stastnys, Kyle Connors, and Jeff Skinners of the world) who feel the squeeze first.

the start of the 2021-22...thats the time to move him if he does want to be moved. Last season before his NMC kicks in and its right after the 2021 expansion draft.
All could be a moot point if Sabres are able to be competitive and make him happy in the next 2 years...but if they can that probably is a realistic timeline to explore a trade

Probably right on the timeline. And we both know the Sabres won't be competitive by then lol

if they pull off a miracle and win the lottery this year, could be all they need to set things in motion being able to get Lafreniere to set it and forget it with Eichel.
Let all the UFAs and some RFAs walk so you dont have Lazar, Simmonds Vesey, Girgensons as your depth.

Explore a Reinhart trade to really fill out the depth in the middle 6. Could pull an Avs and do what they did in 1 offseason, build a 2nd line with Burakovsky Kadri and Donskoi.

With a rookie GM, no scouting staff of hockey personnel, a cheap lunatic owner, NY state taxes, and the city of Buffalo's pretty much completely deserved reputation... One of those might be an issue...

Yeah I was going to edit it saying to be fair avs have one of the top analytic departments in the nhl so they targeting bura and donskoi, as well as nichushkin whose numbers all said in elevated roles they will do well...they went 3 for 3 last offseason

Firing 20 some off hockey op people isn’t a good start to an important offseason

They say they're gonna build an analytics department and rely on it but I'll believe it when I see it.

On the flip side, those 20 something people had a hand in shaping the current roster. It’s possible they are all, or at least to some degree had a hand in the **** show that it is now. At best, they didn’t pull enough weight to be valuable. At worst they likes someone like Sobotka for the team.